Global Chat

As an old school gamer you're suggesting people pay for something that used to be free? Blasphemy, you must hate pay to use gameplay bits as people who hate early access and DLC.

Though I must admit... It's pretty silly to pay for a chat, and I'm supportive of DLC and early access.

You are right!. but its about the less of 2 evils if you will.

I rather pay than just plain not having a global chat.

I know how alone it all felt in the new Battle.net. You just sad there depressed looking at a menu screen with nothing to do while searching for a game. It felt totally dead.

Not a fan of paying for that sort of thing, but if that is what it takes to help keep mods to clean up the trash ill take that. I believe if you want a RTS game or any game to grow, especially to esport. if important to facilitate communication between players. You only have so much time to chat before the game starts, and while you are playing i sure dont have time to chat.

I remember spending many hours just sitting back in Diablo 2 watching people's heroes. that would be replaced by commanders and stats about them, wins, losses, so forth. and then just chatting, You felt like you were connected to millions of people all around the world, and they were just there, behind their character.

I just feel like companies should strive to fix global chats, instead of the easy way out, to just well lets remove it. Because at the end of the day its a very very small % of people that ruins it for the majority, and im not a fan of punishing the majority because a tiny minority flame, spam, and what not. i dont think that is fair.

That reminds me of school. when the people who were fighting wouldn tell who did what and we all had to stay for another hour or 2.

Just a quick FYI... if you isntall Cola Colins excellent PA:Stats mod it integrates the PA IRC chat channel directly into the game

oh, i love that. i mean, that's really the thing: we should open up the game for a chat mod. people who use mods are sophisticated enough to handle a global chat and use it to form friendships, set up games, and have a good time. gen pop global chats in recently released pc games otherwise just invite "i like poop" dude, but times a thousand.

You'd need an official way to deliver mods or at least you'd need to officially advert a 3rd party way for it.

Erm.. The mod marketplace, silly Cola...

Do we have that right now?

This game is ultimately going to have a more mature established userbase than most online games, judging by the TA and SupCom communities. Even at this stage the number of ranting morons is pretty low, and I am made sad by the thought of no global chat.

Well no, but I assume we will soon. Hopefully at release, if there's a marketplace at release then I'll be ecstatic!

I'd be very happy about such a market place as well, that would be a pretty big feature to fall from the sky though.
I would not mind at all though ^^

not only that but FAF (in my belief) (that remains to be determined) (I had a long debate about this) is bigger than PA.

Ahhhh! that's such an interesting point of view! nice!

How good? You can host a tournament with global chat?

FAF chat on peak reached 1023 users at the same time. 700 is achieve on a daily basis.

I highly doubt PA community is bigger.

Also you are wrong saying FAF players are only "old FA players". A recent poll shows that a lot of players are brand new.

The last global chat done right I've seen was in GPGNET.
And almost all moderators in FAF are coming from GPGNET, and guess what, they weren't paid and all went for 7 YEARS.

Of course if your point of reference is games monkey patching chat on the side of their DRM client, I can understand why you are against.

By the way, PA will suck because all the recent RTS sucks.

Yes. You can advertise it, post twitch live cast of them, talk to people watching them, ....
You know, creating an event around it, and at the same time creating a community.

PA has no real community right now, that's a shame.

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Paying, would be worse than having a player-mod chat.

Especially with free clan teamspeaks you can use when you join a clan through a google search for the game, and with this game being open to modding hooked into it. You would have few people pay for something you can hook in for free.

Since it would be rarely ever purchased, it would have a terribly terribly small usercount, much smaller than it's mod counterpart, the mod may as well be the only global chat.

Then again, a FREE and INCLUDED INTO GAME global chat would have the maximum usercount, get the maximum player retention too. That is included into game, not necesarily "uber's". Uber just has to borrow a public chat to hook into the game as a default feature (with an "off" toggle).

Sadly it's proven to be bad, based on a chat on a device without any keyboard, with chat window smaller than a tweet.

You can't count the experience of FAF or TASpring because, you know, they are there for a long time, so it's biased.

If a free game like Airmech can make it work, then PA most certainly can.

All you need is a good community willing to moderate the chat and a simple spam filter that mutes people temporarily if they spam 8 messages in 5 seconds, or whatever.

By both being a game of strategy and a paid game there should be very few bad apples.

I don't get how a game from an old genre, targetting an older genre audience, can't use an older genre's statistics.

That is like saying, you can't design a retro game based off a retro design model, but older games did it because they were established older.

If this game is trying to be a predecesor, it can pick up where the classic genre left off.

Also, this. Both the limits of the bad apples, and the simple spam filter. Someone can't do very much harm if extreme vulgar things are filtered, if players are limited 3-4 messages per minute, and they can't be identical to any of their last 2 messages. That literally fixes 90% of violations before they even happen.

what about moderators? could uber afford 24/7 moderation?

If people are being douchebags and the chat becomes too messy, just make sub-chats, like one for multiplayer-games for things as need more players, and questions-chat for people with questions in-game. And make username in chat clickable, to allow for social options, and if someone is being a douche or spamming wrong subchat, make an option to report when clicking name, and a moderator will get a message when someone reports, with that message and moderator will gain access to chat-history. Then the user will be given a warning or be banned.

They will find the community if they want to. Eg, steam community hub, forums.

Why do people need to see few veterans talking to each other?

Self deception.

Veteran/most active players would find each other anyway. Like they did in these forums.

Sounds exactly what you are doing right now here. Hanging around. And this game doesn't even have global chat.

And FAF global chat probably only works because there's only small group of same old people that use it. Which then again, makes it relatively pointless.