PLANETARY ANNIHILATION COMMUNITY ACTIVATE

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by BradNicholson, August 20, 2014.

  1. igncom1

    igncom1 Post Master General

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  2. thetrophysystem

    thetrophysystem Post Master General

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    Not you. And btw, I was wrong, THAT was CheatCodeCentral that plagarized that particular game (Zelda: Oracles). Do they even exist anymore? Anyway, IGN is a bad offender usually.
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  3. brianpurkiss

    brianpurkiss Post Master General

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    awwww shucks. :)

    I really do need to open up the wiki for public edits...
  4. igncom1

    igncom1 Post Master General

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    I know, just jokes :D
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  5. thetrophysystem

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    That's the wierd thing though. You need editors besides yourself no matter how reliable you are, section editors maybe even so to divide the work evenly.

    However, a wiki needs public editing, but you should definitely limit it harshly. Register and email verified account and such. Public editing tends to get trollish where they will just go through editing stuff to the word "dog poo" written about 20 times in a row to form a complete paragraph.
  6. brianpurkiss

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    Which is exactly wy it hasn't been full public editing so far. heh.

    Could definitely start by requiring people to register in order to edit. Would make things easier at least.
  7. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    Dunno' if it's possible, but you could start with a couple trusted contributors, eventually giving some slack and allowing people who have signed up to edit. The now well established contributors could then be helping you edit out any form of spam if it does end up happening, and you could either give a warning for first offense or out right ban someone's account if they misbehave. :p
  8. brianpurkiss

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    I could go that route. But I think you over estimate the amount of people who would actually contribute. There's a reason why the old wiki was so out dated and mine was the only up to date Wiki. I exclusively wrote everything. I've had maybe half a dozen correction/spelling fix submissions.

    Requiring registration is a nice way to have only serious submitters and keeps a lot of trolls at bay, and makes it easier to track trolls.
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  9. MrTBSC

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    has this now turned into a brianwiki vs uber/ignwiki thread or something?
    just use any wiki for the game you want ... who realy cares?
    and what is with the hate torwards ign (the site not the member here) ok you dont like some people from there .. but is it realy a problem that uber wants to work with them? this thread has a weird tone ...
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  10. brianpurkiss

    brianpurkiss Post Master General

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    It's weird how threads will chase down rabbit trails.

    This is by no means a wiki war. The thread started as a discussion about why people don't like the IGN wiki, and my wiki was discussed. Suggestions were made on how to improve both wikis, and the past few posts have been about my wiki.

    A lot of people have issues with IGN as a company as well as their wiki formatting. Personally, I don't like auto playing full video ads, let alone a page that has more ads than content. Which is why I don't like the IGN wiki and is one of the many reasons I started my Wiki. It's completely ad free and has, in my opinion, a much better interface. Not to mention I have, and will add, various features that the IGN wiki cannot have.

    Edit: Btw. "who cares?" Obviously, we do. Which is why we're discussing how we can have the best wiki possible.
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  11. Dementiurge

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    The thread was started as a call to arms to fill up the IGN wiki.
    And then the thread rapidly changed topic to the stealing of content from other wikis. There hasn't been much discussion of the IGN wiki, just opinion tossing ("I don't like it." "It doesn't even work." etc).
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  12. drewsuser

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    Waitin' for the brad lock now
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  13. thetrophysystem

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    The IGN GTA5 wiki doesn't show even references to the 8/19 update yet. I was hoping for pictures of new things, but they lack any information on it whatsoever. *shrug* just saying...

  14. exterminans

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    IMHO, I prefer Raeven's wiki over PAMatches. Not that the PAMatches wiki wouldn't be very nice to look at or had less / worse content, on the contrary, but when it comes to features, it just can't compete with a fully fleshed Mediawiki.

    I do see a future for both tho, mostly due to the very visually oriented nature of the PAMatches Wiki which is more appealing to future or very fresh customers. But I don't see it working for a fact database, not without a lot of work (and much time spent) on the feature side.

    Gamepedia is already off limits, it's a stock Mediawiki and there's not much hope in getting feature extensions.

    IGN offers about the least amount of control, it doesn't even have the feature level of a basic Mediawiki installation, plus administration is completely in the hands of people which aren't even remotely related to the PA community or Uber.

    PS: @brianpurkiss, maybe consider putting the stuff on your page under a proper license, even the guys at IGN aren't mad enough to violate a well established license like a non commercial CC.

    PPS: @raevn , would you consider extending your Wiki by https://semantic-mediawiki.org/ ?
    It plays very nicely with the use of templates and eliminates the need for duplicated data when building tables from unit stats and alike. (Stuff like "X can be build in N seconds by Y" comes for free too.)
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  15. Raevn

    Raevn Moderator Alumni

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    If any extension is useful, and doesn't cause issues, I'm happy to install it. It'll certainly help whenever balance changes are made that affect multiple units.
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  16. brianpurkiss

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    I beg to differ. I have greater control over my site and can get in some awesome integration with the rest of the PA Matches content. Not to mention additional tools like unit comparison stuff. Can't really do that with mediawiki.

    Each to their own though.
  17. Raevn

    Raevn Moderator Alumni

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    I don't see how you have greater control; it's not a externally hosted wiki like wikia, where you have limited admin ability. I have full control of the server and can use 3rd party extensions or write my own if need be (or even edit the raw php if it comes to that), so in that respect it's no less customizable. Unit comparisons seem to be readily achievable with semantic mediawiki, too.
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  18. brianpurkiss

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    Fair enough. Just depends on how much you're going to customize wikia I suppose.
  19. cptconundrum

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    I'm a little surprised at this concept of owning a wiki. It's a bit like saying Jimmy Wales wrote Wikipedia, isn't it?

    Brian's of course is different because he wrote that himself. The underlying technology doesn't change the fact that the pa matches one is a curated encyclopedia made by him.
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  20. brianpurkiss

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    It's more like running/administrating a wiki.

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