What is the ACTUAL problem with the unit canon?

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by exterminans, August 18, 2014.

  1. orangerinapay

    orangerinapay Active Member

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    To put it short,"meta" means the "go to" strategy aka the most efficient strategy, every patch brings new things to the game which change the current meta.
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  2. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    well think of it this way:... People go to tank museums and droll over how big of a caliber such tank had and what crazy kinds of ammunition it could fire and then you imagine shooting that tank.

    also it's very phallic

    No Seriously though, it solves a whole lot of our balance issues.
  3. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    Phallic bit is the best bit?
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  4. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    The problem with the unit cannon is : it can't fire fish.
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  5. cdrkf

    cdrkf Post Master General

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    'Meta' in the context of playing PA is reffering to the 'accepted best stratergy' behind the game.

    When people go on about the 'Meta' changing or 'learning the meta' they're basically saying- learn the new best option. It changes every time Uber adjust teh balance.

    For example, a few builds ago they made t1 tanks super effective compared to everything else. So the meta in that instance was "build tanks to win" and doing anythign else would usually result in a loss. Very recently they adjusted the balance and now the dox is more effective than the t1 tank so the meta has changed to "build dox to win" instead :p

    Essentially, whilst the game is in development things change rapidly so this concept of 'learning the meta' (i.e. figuring out whats best) is very important as that is the difference between winning and loosing at a high level.

    That said, the most basic stuff about PA has been constant from the start: Keep expanding, keep producing and use all the layers (by that I mean don't just focus on ground, use ground, air and orbital to get an advantage over your opponent). What has changed is what perticular units are best. Hopefully once the game gets tweaked a little more we won't have this "build unit type x to win" and all units will be useful, at which point there won't be a single dominant stratergy and people might just have to think for a change.
  6. sycspysycspy

    sycspysycspy Active Member

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    "OH NO, NOT AGAIN"
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  7. BradNicholson

    BradNicholson Uber Employee Uber Alumni

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    I'm pretty sure Forrest has talked about this a couple of times on the forums. I'm digging a bit.
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  8. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    Does it have anything to do with the issues I mentioned earlier? :D

    Basically this:

    Combined with limited dev time/money.
  9. BradNicholson

    BradNicholson Uber Employee Uber Alumni

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    Totally. There's design issues we need to solve (is it a factory, how does it shoot units, what kind of units should it shoot) and technical stuff we need to address (making ground units disobey physics, shooting through space, angle of shot) before we can move full-steam ahead. The game grew and evolved as we were making it, subtly redefining any role a Unit Cannon would have pre-beta.
  10. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    from memory "is it a factory?" is not an issue we have to solve.

    sorry if I trip you while you're trying to take a step back though.

    https://forums.uberent.com/threads/the-unit-cannons-going-to-be-a-factory-no.54300/
  11. BallsonFire

    BallsonFire Active Member

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    I sill wonder if at this time there are Devs working on or if there is going to be worked on the UC after PA 1.0 is finished? What are u guys working on exactly or is everyone polishing the game? We don't hear anything about it because there is never a live stream anymore.​
  12. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    They're doing a lot of polish work. As well as work on gas giants, and a apparent [REDACTED] (most likely asteroid belts.) They are also working very hard at getting that server ready for or near 1.0

    Basically.. There's so much work, they don't have time for streams.
  13. BradNicholson

    BradNicholson Uber Employee Uber Alumni

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    Yeah, it's been challenging to get everyone together. Plus, there's an office move coming up imminently.

    As for what's next? We'll fill you in when we get there. One foot in front of the other right now, my man.
  14. wienerdog4life

    wienerdog4life Active Member

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    All you have to do is throw the Unit Cannon on a lazy Susan. Problem solved.
  15. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    I don't even know how that answers what he said he never said anything about rotating trouble.
  16. wienerdog4life

    wienerdog4life Active Member

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    It's the only solution, tatsujb
  17. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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  18. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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    It's out of order, remember?
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  19. LmalukoBR

    LmalukoBR Well-Known Member

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    But..... the live streams..... they are so nice!

    Can we has them back?
    Cant-Say-No.jpg

    Ow that eating camera! Brad stuffing his face instead of playing the game... remembering it gives me a warm feeling inside.
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  20. igncom1

    igncom1 Post Master General

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    Yeah, all we want is a brad face cam 24/7.
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