Want pc to play PA

Discussion in 'Support!' started by schuesseled192, August 6, 2014.

  1. schuesseled192

    schuesseled192 Active Member

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    The only 4gb card option on there was the gtx770 ;)
  2. cdrkf

    cdrkf Post Master General

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    As others have mentioned the 3gb R9 280 or 280x are also worth looking at if you can get them at the right price...
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    schuesseled192 Active Member

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  4. cdrkf

    cdrkf Post Master General

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    A tough one, I personally think based on PA's love of memory (both system and graphics) I'd lean towards the 280. The 760 is going to be the faster card in PA due to Nvidia's somewhat better support for OpenGL, however once you play on a map that needs more graphics memory than the 760 has it's fps will crash whereas the 280 will keep going.

    Edit: Also based on other peoples comments I think the performance for the 280 will be ample to play the game well.
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    schuesseled192 Active Member

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    If I'm understanding you correctly, the 760 will be better for smaller games with less people and the 280 better for larger games with more people. Sounds like it has to be the 280 for me. And now i'm £50 over budget :(.
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    schuesseled192 Active Member

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    I once tried to clean my iphone, it's now a paper weight. I'd rather avoid being put in the position where upgrading a new pc would be necessary. But if upgrading is possible and necessary, I'd probably do it. My current pc is so old though, I can't upgrade it any where near enough. It's not compatible.
  7. SXX

    SXX Post Master General

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    Personally I can't recommend AMD hardware for PA due to poor OpenGL support with them, but if you also play other games a lot you likely will get better performance in them with AMD GPU just because those are cheaper.

    Not really. Both GPUs should be more than enough for PA because you can always adjust video memory usage using "virtual texture" option.

    I recommend to get GPUs with more video memory because currently all software going to use it. E.g your OS, web browser, video recording software, graphics/video editor, etc. Having more RAM and VRAM guarantee you won't need to close other apps when you want to play game on higher settings and also will benefit you a lot if you decide to get something like 4K display in future.

    So it's just good thing to have because you can't upgrade it. ;)
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    cdrkf Post Master General

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    As I understand it more graphics ram should enable you to hold more textures in memory for planets- thus reducing disk caching on very large systems and delays where you get black patches on planets as the system loads in the textures. So more graphics ram should improve performance on systems with larger numbers of planets. SXX is correct that you can adjust the 'virtual texture' setting down if your system doesn't have much graphics ram (as my GPU only has 1 gb I have to have this set to minimum to avoid problems). Note the number of people / units aren't really effected by graphics ram- that is more a system memory / cpu performance issue.
  9. cwarner7264

    cwarner7264 Moderator Alumni

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    iPhones and PCs are very different beasts. People build custom PCs all the time and there's a large community of people who can offer help and advice - trying to get inside an iPhone is like trying to get inside a bank vault with nothing but a damp sock. Adding RAM and installing hard drives is particularly easy these days.
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    There is no disk or RAM caching for textures. Some basic assets actually stored in RAM, but most of textures you see generated on the fly all the time you change camera position.

    You might check more tech details on this here:
    https://forums.uberent.com/threads/question-to-devs-about-vram-usage.51325/
    http://www.mavorsrants.com/2013/02/planetary-annihilation-engine.html
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    cdrkf Post Master General

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    Ah ok, I'll have a read. I think disk caching is very much a thing though (where insufficient system ram is available perhaps) given how PA runs on my machine....
  12. schuesseled192

    schuesseled192 Active Member

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    Okay, the final package looks like this:

    Case
    InWIN G7 BRUSHED EFFECT DARK GREY CASE
    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4460 (3.2GHz) 6MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte H81M-D2V: Micro-ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
    Memory (RAM)
    16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X FURY DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)
    Graphics Card
    3GB AMD RADEON™ R9 280 - DVI, HDMI, mDP - DX® 11.2, Eyefinity
    1st Hard Disk
    120GB INTEL® 530 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
    2nd Hard Disk
    2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 64MB CACHE
    1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
    24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
    Processor Cooling
    Super Quiet 22dBA Triple Copper Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler
    Extra Case Fans
    2 x 12CM Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
    Sound Card
    ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
    Wireless/Wired Networking
    10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
    USB Options
    MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
    Power Cable
    1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
    Operating System
    Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence
    DVD Recovery Media
    Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
    Office Software
    NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
    Anti-Virus
    NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
    Warranty
    3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
    Delivery
    STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
    Build Time
    Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
    Quantity
    1

    Cost: Case
    InWIN G7 BRUSHED EFFECT DARK GREY CASE
    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4460 (3.2GHz) 6MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte H81M-D2V: Micro-ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
    Memory (RAM)
    16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X FURY DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)
    Graphics Card
    3GB AMD RADEON™ R9 280 - DVI, HDMI, mDP - DX® 11.2, Eyefinity
    1st Hard Disk
    120GB INTEL® 530 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
    2nd Hard Disk
    2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 64MB CACHE
    1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
    24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
    Processor Cooling
    Super Quiet 22dBA Triple Copper Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler
    Extra Case Fans
    2 x 12CM Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
    Sound Card
    ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
    Wireless/Wired Networking
    10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
    USB Options
    MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
    Power Cable
    1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
    Operating System
    Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence
    DVD Recovery Media
    Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
    Office Software
    NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
    Anti-Virus
    NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
    Warranty
    3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
    Delivery
    STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
    Build Time
    Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
    Quantity
    1


    Cost: £850, excluding new printer.
    Last edited: August 7, 2014
  13. Corang

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    my 2 cents - I have a nvidia gtx 760 2GB and it runs almost flawlessly almost all the time, I have seen too many complaints about AMD on here for me to recommend it, so I wholeheartidly recommend you keep everything except change the GPU to the 2GB 760
  14. schuesseled192

    schuesseled192 Active Member

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    • Intel Core i7 4790K 4GHz TURBO 4.4 GHZ Quad Core Processor
    • 16GB Memory DDR3 1866 Mhz Corsair
    • 2000GB SATA 3 hard drive + 240 GB Sata SSD
    • NVIDIA GEFORCE 770 GTX 4GB DDR5 Graphics card
    • Gigabyte Z97X GAMING 3 USB 3.0 motherboard SLi AND CROSSFIRE READY
    • 24 Speed DVD-RW Dual Layer Multi-Format
    • 300mbps Wireless N Adapter
    • Stylish ZALMAN Z11 PLUS USB 3 CASE
    • 650 Watt CORSAIR Gaming Power Supply Unit
    • Windows 7 Pro 64 bit OR Windows Pro 8.1 Licensed and configured and ready to go
    • PLEASE SPECIFY AT CHECKOUT OR EMAIL US WHICH YOU PREFER

      Just won this beast on ebay, only £121 over my budget of £800. (Could have got it for 820 if someone hadn't bidded it up, grrr. Damn you stranger.)
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    cdrkf Post Master General

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    That is a nice rig :)
  16. schuesseled192

    schuesseled192 Active Member

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    I Think I'll have to modify my computer desk to fit in the tower though :O And By modify I mean whack away at the shelves and partitions with a mallet until there's just a big hole.

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