New way for trolls to ruin the game

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by LmalukoBR, July 19, 2014.

  1. LmalukoBR

    LmalukoBR Well-Known Member

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    I just played a game today, and one of the players CD-Key was his name, after being defeated he started to hit the pause button non stop rendering the game unplayable for the other people. The pause button is a great addition but there should be limits to how it can be used, e.g if u r dead u don't need to pause the game.

    To be honest this is probably being done by only a few idiots, but he managed to ruin the game for everyone else. And this things tend to be picked up by people with no respect for the game, soon we all might be at the mercy of these people who don't know how to lose.
  2. thelordofthenoobs

    thelordofthenoobs Well-Known Member

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    Hmm..maybe there should be a cooldown to pausing the game.
  3. brianpurkiss

    brianpurkiss Post Master General

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    On the flip side, spectators can pause when someone disconnects. That's been very helpful in tournaments and general gameplay.

    I'm surprised it hasn't happened earlier.

    What we need is a way to vote kick people from a game. But then again, that could be exploitable.

    Or maybe people need to agree on a pause. Or something.

    In short, there will always be a way for trolls to troll. It's a matter of finding the best way for regular players to prevent trolls.
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  4. epicblaster117

    epicblaster117 Active Member

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    I second on the vote pause idea, kinda annoying when a host can just leave and pause outta the blue.
  5. mjshorty

    mjshorty Well-Known Member

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    A limit of 3 pauses should do
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  6. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    I agree. A hard limit like that should be reasonable for when we finally fix all these bugs and DC's, and will prevent people from spamming it.
  7. brianpurkiss

    brianpurkiss Post Master General

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    Eh. Except there's legitimate reasons for more than three pauses, especially on longer games. A pause cooldown would be better.
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  8. LmalukoBR

    LmalukoBR Well-Known Member

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    Yeah i think a cooldown should do the trick.
  9. lizard771

    lizard771 Well-Known Member

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    What about an option in the game lobby? ("Allow pausing the game")
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  10. tehtrekd

    tehtrekd Post Master General

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    "Now trolls have to wait 30 seconds between pauses to piss people off!"
  11. Aliessil

    Aliessil Active Member

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    Something like you can pause 3 times, and the counter resets every 15mins? Maybe make it configurable by the game host - #pauses, reset_timer options.
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  12. brianpurkiss

    brianpurkiss Post Master General

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    Trolls will always have a way to troll.

    It's about limiting their effectiveness.

    We also need to not gimp the game for good players in favor of trolls.
  13. liquius

    liquius Well-Known Member

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    How about 3 pauses per person and a lobby setting that allows unlimited/no pauses. This can't be abused and is good enough for most games.
  14. tehtrekd

    tehtrekd Post Master General

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    So lemme get this straight - lesser skilled players (AKA most of the playerbase) should have to suffer through annoying 12 year old children ruining the fun of a game just because le 1337 playerz can't keep a decent connection?

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  15. OathAlliance

    OathAlliance Well-Known Member

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    I'm reminded of an argument that people were making about the PA EA Box, let me quote from myself:
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    I really don't see much difference. We can't stop people from Trolling, all we can do is to deter them from it. However, that can place unreasonable burdens on legitimate players who may need to use said feature.

    What players need is an ability to remove the problem player without having to be burdened by restrictions to in-game features(like the pause button). Otherwise we are only punishing the players, not the trolls.
  16. killerkiwijuice

    killerkiwijuice Post Master General

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    The problem i have with a vote-kick system is that people can kick someone in game if they're too good.

    I think there should be a limit to the amount of pauses a person gets in a match. Like time outs in sports.
  17. tehtrekd

    tehtrekd Post Master General

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    Vote-kicks are flawed, yes.
    But you know what ISN'T flawed? Report and ban.
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  18. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    this is to be noted.

    reading this thread someone might think it's always like this but the reality is the community is more good than evil.

    This perp should be reported.
  19. popededi

    popededi Well-Known Member

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    I'd say the best solution would be to only allow pause if the majority of players consent.

    Player presses pause button, others get an option to agree or disagree. All it requires is for the initiator to type "BRB going to the loo" in chat and there shouldn't be any problems.

    And any solution will be exploitable one way or another, but this should stop griefers at least.
  20. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    no.

    the way it is is fine.

    nobody uses it to troll on FAF and FAF has more players than PA. we just need to be patient.

    six year olds never stick around these kinds of games for long, and once the ladder and ranking comes along, they'll have each other to deal with and we won't.

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