What are the plans for nerfing the vanguard?

The fact that 2 vanguards can kill a comm without taking more than 1/4 their HP in damage is silly. If uber thinks the balance is "almost good" what are they going to do about vanguards?

One Vanguard can kill a Commander.

I'm also curious about the Sheller. It's better and cheaper than the Pelter.

Yeah, I am a bit curious as to what uber defines as a "finished" balance, if this is "almost finished"...

There were "plans" to nerf it?

If this keeps up...

Basically tourneys are going to have to start using balance mods.

At least we can have balance mods now...

And therefore we will have proof of the community's balance ideas being better !!!

I would seriously hope so.

we haven't had a balance pass in awhile, I'd like to think we'll have another major run soon addressing:

basic bots in general (especially the dox and missing AA business)
vanguards (little crazy here, either nerf them or provide some kind of counter)
shellers
infernos could use a little tweaking I think.
hornet/gunship redundancy
astreaus cost (should be a lot cheaper making them viable as an invasion tool, kinda worthless now except in very early game to get to other planets)
naval in general, particularly speed.

That will not be avoided, trust me. No matter how the balance goes, tournaments will use balance mods. I have never seen one not for this type of game. Supcom and even TA for instance? Starcraft doesn't count, besides, didn't starcraft have balance patch?

We had a balance patch not 2 patches ago, IIRC.

I still say it should be removed.
There's no way to balance a super-powered inferno. There just isn't.

Hope is the last bastion of the doomed.

Ah the WH40K quotes

Don't remove it, just change it so much that it isn't even close to being a superpowered inferno.

"Hope is the first step upon the road to disappointment." is the 40k quote.
The other one is (possibly) based off a quote from Mark Twain.

Right, messed that up. Still, I could totally see them saying that.

It seems to be a generic "form" if you will. There's a number of quotes I can find where;

" X is the last refuge/bastion of the Y. "

Though they don't seem to be attributed to anyone in particular. The only concrete example I can find is Samuel Johnson's famous line;

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.",

which Issac Asimov riffed on in The Encyclopedists, with;

"Violence is the last refuge of the Incompetent."

For reference:

RCBM: Gave the vanguard a tickle cannon.
Statera: Moved vanguard to T1, removed the weapon entirely.

I'm super unhappy with both options. One of the big failures of both mods, I think. The machinegun just feels wrong, and a mobile wall, while okay in concept, really hurts my suspension of disbelief.

Noted. I tried making it an amphibious transport, but that wasn't working for some reason. Wouldn't pick units up. I heard that all transports in Statera were broken, but haven't been able to verify.

A cost nerf of 300 is not a sufficient nerf Uber, I can tell you that.