[WIP] The Realm Community Balance Mod

True enough. I do wonder what the new "UNITTYPE_Tactical" is doing behind the scenes.

Forget I said anything.

Looks like it's just there so that the AI will build units with it in certain situations and use them a certain way.

Some unittpyes, such as "Commander" do have hardcoded behaviour. while it's not probable that "Tactical" is doing anything much, I wouldn't completely rule it out.

Are you sure that a commander has hardcoded behavior based on its unit type? (I assume that the behavior in question is ending the game if you have none).

Do the following:

Start a new game and spawn in a second commander.

Self destruct your first com.

Observe that even though you have another unit with the commander unittype, you still lose when the one you spawned with died.

Yup. That's, I assume, because the server only checks the STARTING commanders, rather than doing so every server tick (which would be rather pointless in 100% of currently possible situations.)

Do you guys plan on adding more units in the future? I believe I heard Brian say that you decided that you wanted to take a bare minimum approach first so you could get a fair balance before implementing units into the game. (Basically change Uber's balance to fit with your and ideas /then/ widen the roster.)

As it says in the design document, the emphasis is on a "minimum effective solution" - we will avoid adding units that aren't in Vanilla unless absolutely necessary due to a role gap.

Yeah, that's the term Brian used. I was only wondering because of all of Knight's work. Thanks!

Unit additions will be done in one or more of the companion mods that we expect to build on top of RCBM. For example, we have plans for mods focusing around economic expansion, orbital units, air/gunships, naval/submarines, missiles, intelligence gathering, general land units, and a few other miscellaneous bits and bobs.

Some of these plans may end up falling by the wayside, others may take a very long time, others are entirely dependant upon uber to provide us the hooks we need to create a unique experience. Either way, RCBM itself will only have one or two new units in, but we consider it just the start of a much larger system.

So we plan to add few units to this mod pack, however as wrongcat pointed out, we don't want to add too much stuff that's missing from vanilla.

When this mod is finished we do have a number of unit expansions that are planned. They will expand on this and should slip in without drastic balance changes to the basic balance mod.

One last point is that we are trying to keep a high standard of quality to this mod pack. That means we won't use models that don't fit the role, or use the same model for more then one unit.

Completely understandable, but you could use past, removed, units if you ever need to. (You could use the old Grenadier model for something for example)

we could, however, we won't. As @liquius said, it's a matter of professionalism; old unsupported models (that were taken out for legitimate reasons rather than silly ones *cough stinger cough*) will stay unsupported. We have a talented modeller and a decent texturer so there's no reason to use Uber's cast-offs.

We have now arrived to the point where everything needs a thorough test. For that reason I will be making public games every evening from 18.00 EST (which is 16.00 GMT or rather 17.00 BST). Tests may vary form controlled tests, to single/double blind tests, directed games or just plain normal games. Your games will be reviewed at some point by the team in order to to get the results.

Anything that uses rotated bones cannot be exported via Raevn's importer/exporter.

There are plenty of things that don't use rotated bones though...

And on that note we've moved to Prerelease 4. We're moving as far along as it is possible to get our intended behaviour, balance and direction with the tools we have available, but we're also aware of some bugs and imbalances of our own creation. We need this version thoroughly tested and we're listening to any balance feedback or suggestions that come our way.

After this testing is done we'll be officially releasing to PAMM!

edit: Updated FirstPost.

I'm just gonna leave this link here for now.

Mike

Interesting, then whose torpedo bomber was I implementing yesterday?

Well it's not like I've been kept up to date! xD

Mike

Contact @YourLocalMadSci , apparently he is texturing it and I think it's his model then.