Assisting orbital units

Lathe's crossing 100 kilometers of atmosphere while it takes rockets unfathomable energy to shoot satellites into space?

small gripe for something I know will eventually be fixed, but it's been so long and this really needs to be addressed.

I didn't create a bugtracker for this one because I want to first have it confirmed as unintentional by the devs. (and if it's not, start a crusade )

It's really weird, but just not allowing it isn't consistent either. If orbital fabricators can build teleporters then why can't land fabbers make orbital units?

I definitely think that ground fabbers shouldn't be able to assist orbital.

It was funny, in a cheat game, I managed to somehow paste a bot factory on the orbital layer. It actually gently floated down below.

I rather orbital fabbers do this.

but even if nanolathe can fall, nanolathe shouldn't shoot off the planet into the atmosphere when you can't simply just build satellites this way.

Heeey, I pasted the factory in the orbital layer in that game, thief, stealing my credit.

Edit: Though really I wish it were a real thing, since it's possible.

Actually, I forgot who did it, but you are right, you did it and then told me to look at the ping.

I do paste orbitals on the ground all the time, and they just float up. But that is taboo too.

I still don't know how I pasted it in orbit, it was hilarious though. : (and interesting...)

The orbital shell isn't just graphic. It is an actual clickable layer. You clicked onto the green sphere, not onto the planet.

Well yes, but I don't accidentally click on the air layer most of the time, also I think it was an avatar fac I pasted

Edit: I wonder if I could make a mod to where orbital dabs could build factories, just give them the UNITTYPE_Orbital, I wonder if it'd build in the orbital layer and slowly float down as it did when I pasted it.

Oh, the air layer I believe is mostly clicked from the ground. I don't think the air layer is clickable.

I know I seen the little click mouse circle glow occur on the orbital shell though. I believe. I think.

In retrospect, it is difficult for me too. I know if I zoom out and paste, orbitals paste in orbital. I know if I zoom in and paste, they paste on ground. I know if I move orbitals by ground layer they move overhead of it. I know if I move them at an angle to the ground when viewing the orbital shell, they move to the orbital shell location, not the location overtop of the land location.

back on track, is it ok or not to assist factories?

get this debate going folks. If you're not okay with orbital being assisted, then say it! if you are then say it!

the one time i don't add a poll nobody debates!

I do not think that land units should be able to assist orbital or vice versa, the long range nanolathes just don't make sense. I sort of already discussed the opposite of this thread, and most people agreed that orbital fabs should build teleporters in orbit to separate the layers.

Oh yeah! i'd voted on that thread.

Well I wouldn't call it a long stretch to say that people who voted yes to only building in orbit for orbital engie would also believe assisting orbital engies from the ground to be bogus, but I'd still like to have a vocal confirmation from the community.

It seems to me that so far the dev's have ignored the community's opinion on this rather solvable matter.

have no problem with groundfabbers assisting orbittalfabbers ... if you quickly need that ssx or anchor to be up there ...

you could easily be doing that with orbital fabbers.

you're never going to be using more then one orbital fabber then.

I agree with this, it would be really cool, however, should fighters be allowed to shoot at it when it's in the air layer then? That would be a pain to code since they cheated and used armor values.

again situational ... groundfabbers also have problems to propper follow orbital fabricators ... so in the best case you would use orbital and airfabbers