Uber-Cannon Auto-Fire?

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by eroticburrito, June 1, 2014.

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Up for it?

  1. I have reservations... for a table of commenters.

    9.8%
  2. Aye.

    36.6%
  3. Bill Nye.

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  4. I could NOT care less.

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  1. eroticburrito

    eroticburrito Post Master General

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    I've played a lot of Warcraft and Starcraft in my time, so this is in part inspired by auto-casting in those games.

    I was thinking about how tricky it might be for somebody to Uber-Cannon a load of fast-moving Aircraft.

    Right-Clicking the Uber-Cannon button to enable Auto-Fire (at clusters of >5 units, excepting Vanguards and Infernos and prioritising Commanders) might provide a nice option for those that want to automate their Uber-Hadoukens.

    Whaddya think?

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  2. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    Bill Nye for me.

    it used to be that way but i think it's good that we leave a small microer's safe haven.
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  3. stuart98

    stuart98 Post Master General

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    Dat poll.

    Like the idea.
  4. stuart98

    stuart98 Post Master General

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    It did NOT used to be that way. It used to be that it was triggered by right clicking at close range. It did NOT autofire.
  5. phantomtom

    phantomtom Active Member

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    This game looks beautiful. That`s what i think:pAmazing ubercannon shoot!
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  6. eroticburrito

    eroticburrito Post Master General

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    Why on earth did I put Bill Nye as the "No" option?
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  7. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    EH
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  8. ace902902

    ace902902 Active Member

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    yes please
  9. valheria

    valheria Active Member

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    I wish the uber cannon behaved like the one in TA.. Because it was hilarious blowing up entire tank columns like that instead of a big bang like it is.. Uber Should give us the option to be honest..
  10. MrTBSC

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    wouldn´t be much of an option when uber brings in a eventualy more powerfull version of an uberattack ...
  11. eroticburrito

    eroticburrito Post Master General

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    What about if the current one tracked forward in a column and then exploded as it does now?
  12. BradNicholson

    BradNicholson Uber Employee Uber Alumni

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    Dude, your screens are so baller.

    PS: nice idea with the auto-fire. It used to in beta, if I remember correctly, but that was before we boosted it.
  13. SolitaryCheese

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  14. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    Brad, will you please be our emissary to try to persuade the rest of the team that HDR, ambient occlusion, bloom and most importantly high day and night + night vs. night lights contrast should make a return in a BIG way.

    Explanation : when HDR+bloom were first introduced we would all get these high night vs. day contrasts.

    more than that : the light in the scene would adapt to the night or the day in exactly the same way our eye's pupil does in real life.

    It was beautiful, marvelous even.

    Now all we can do is alter a bunch of files to obtain a broken effect that pales in comparison : The intelHD bug @eroticburrito has that you find so baller.

    Right now the consensus in the UBER office is that's the art team's decision to make night almost as bright as day was good.

    Please go convince them to bring back that adaptive darkness.

    please, please, please, please!
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  15. Pendaelose

    Pendaelose Well-Known Member

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    I'm all for giving commanders (or any other unit) activated abilities with a right-click to automate defaulted to true.
  16. Remy561

    Remy561 Post Master General

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    There are going to be 3 types of ubercannons, so maybe the laser one will do this ;)
  17. ace63

    ace63 Post Master General

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    Listen to this man.
  18. eroticburrito

    eroticburrito Post Master General

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    Ambient Occlusion at 0.65 instead of 1.0.
  19. elodea

    elodea Post Master General

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    I'm against uber cannon auto cast for several reasons

    1) I should be able to distract you with an attack somewhere else so that i can push on your base. Basically, the game is more deep when player attention and time management is a part of the game. Whenever there are strategic tradeoffs to player decisions, it's generally always a good thing. Yes, get rid of 'micro' requirements for accessibility, but not necessarily at the cost of interesting player interactions. Especially when the micro in question is not tedious or high apm in nature (we're talking like <1 apm peoples..)

    2) The invisible rules for what constitutes a 'clump' are not intuitive or quickly understood by the player. Why are infernos and vanguards magically exempt? Autocast potentially increases the micro requirement because of all these random rules. It's not really auto cast, since you still need to evaluate every single situation anyway if you are playing to win.

    It also causes your opponent to 'game the system', instead of 'playing you', by microing even more with things like sending just enough units forward to bait automatic uber cannons. Micromanaging against systems instead of players is the worst kind of micro you want.

    3) How lazy do we really want to get? At what point does automation make the game stop being a game and start becoming a movie? Is uber cannon really 'tedious micro'? I would argue that it isn't, and auto cast should be relegated to single player only if at all.
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  20. Guilliman

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    Commander has an ability to fire? oO



    *looks for keybinds*

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