Our first publicly available stream, this build is not functionally a lot different from what's currently live. Not many code changes. It is, however, a radical departure on the balance side of things. Not going to go into detail about the differences, but high level: Significant adjustment of economic scale between basic and advanced. Pretty big overhaul to orbital, including the introduction of the orbital factory. So many JSON changes across the board they're a bit hard to list out. Suffice it to say, that Basic -> Advanced economy changes quite a bit, as does the function of a number of units (Dox, Anchor, etc). If you've been watching our experimental streams, you already have a sense of what some of these differences are. But if you have an opinion, and haven't been able to try it out yourself to see how those assumptions hold up to reality, now's your chance. Please keep feedback in this thread to actual game feedback and discussion. Please keep theorycrafting and speculation without playing over in general.
Changes listed here are in relation to the current stable build. Summary New Unit: Orbital Factory - builds the more advanced orbital units, plus those built by the orbital launcher. Commanders now store enough energy for 4 Uber cannon shots Weapons with splash damage have had their maximum damage radius dropped significantly. Aircraft speed lowered, except for Bombers and Gunships, which were sped up. Bombers' weapon damage and radius increased. Air Scout no longer has a weapon Advanced Fighter's weapon no longer deals splash damage The Dox is now a high arc artillery unit The Slammer now fires faster, with less damage per shot. Overall it gains a damage boost. Bomb Bots auto-attack. Vehicle speeds increased. Metal storage quadrupled. Advanced units and structures metal cost increased roughly 4x. I've colour coded these below (orange = 4x, green < 4x, red > 4x). Advanced Metal Extractors produce less metal than before (28 -> 24) Anti-nuke no longer starts with a pre-built missile, and missiles are cheaper and build faster. Nuclear missiles can be fired to any planet in the system, and are cheaper and build faster. New Unit Orbital Factory Orbital: Builds orbital satellites Metal Cost: 9900 Health: 10000 Orbital Sight Range: 100m Build Rate: 180M 6000E Unit Changes Commanders Ammo demand: 10000 -> 2500 Basic Aircraft Basic Fabrication Aircraft Metal Cost: 270 -> 200 Acceleration: 40 -> 35 Brake Rate: 40 -> 35 Move Speed: 40 -> 35 Air Scout "Firefly" Acceleration: 1000 -> 90 Brake Rate: 100 -> 90 Move Speed: 110 -> 90 Weapon Removed Fighter "Hummingbird" Turn Speed: 180 -> 270 Bomber "Bumblebee" Damage: 100 -> 150 Splash Damage: 100 -> 150 Splash Radius: 7 -> 10 Full Damage Splash Radius: 3.5 -> 1 Basic Bots Basic Fabrication Bot Formation preference: Back Basic Fabrication Bot Combat Metal Cost: 540 -> 720 Build Rate (M): 22 -> 60 Formation preference: Back Assault Bot "Dox" Grenadier: Area effect, lobbing assault bot Weapon Arc: High Weapon Range: 80 -> 95 Rate of Fire: 1 -> 0.5 Damage: 10 -> 40 Weapon Speed: 150 -> 50 Splash Damage: 0 -> 40 Splash Radius: 0 -> 5 Full Damage Splash Radius: N/A -> 1 Bomb Bot "Boom" Now auto-attacks Basic Vehicles Basic Fabrication Vehicle Formation preference: Back Land Scout "Skitter" Acceleration: 200 -> 250 Brake Rate: 200 -> 250 Move Speed: 20 -> 25 AA Missile Vehicle "Stinger" Acceleration: 70 -> 100 Brake Rate: 70 -> 100 Move Speed: 7 -> 10 Tank "Unit Cannon" Acceleration: 70 -> 100 Brake Rate: 70 -> 100 Move Speed: 7 -> 10 Turn Speed: 60 -> 90 Armored Tank "Inferno" Metal Cost: 600 -> 750 Acceleration: 70 -> 100 Brake Rate: 70 -> 100 Move Speed: 7 -> 10 Basic Orbital Basic Orbital Fabrication Bot Metal Cost: 2400 -> 9000 Build Rate (M): 40 -> 132 Orbital Fighter "Avenger" Metal Cost: 300 -> 1500 Health: 100 -> 250 Damage: 50 -> 25 Orbital Lander "Astraus" Metal Cost: 2400 -> 1500 Acceleration: 10 -> 25 Brake Rate: 10 -> 25 Move Speed: 10 -> 25 Vertical Speed: 50 -> 100 Radar Satellite "ARKYD" Metal Cost: 600 -> 2250 Health: 400 -> 1000 Acceleration: 10 -> 15 Brake Rate: 10 -> 15 Move Speed: 10 -> 15 Basic Structures Metal Storage Metal Storage: 5000 -> 20000 Land Barrier Health: 6000 -> 5000 Single Laser Defense Metal Cost: 150 -> 300 Area Build separation: 18 Weapon Range: 120 -> 100 Laser Defense Metal Cost: 300 -> 450 Area Build separation: 18 Damage: 80 -> 75 Splash Damage: 80 -> 0 Splash Radius: 2 -> 0 Weapon Range: 120 -> 110 Rate of Fire: 2.0 -> 1.5 Artillery "Pelter" Full Damage Splash Radius: 6 -> 2 Orbital Launcher Metal Cost: 2400 -> 3900 Build Rate (M): 20 -> 75 Build Rate (E): 2000 -> 1350 Teleporter Metal Cost: 1500 -> 400 Health: 4000 -> 9570 Advanced Aircraft Advanced Fabrication Aircraft Metal Cost: 1350 -> 4800 (x3.6) Acceleration: 40 -> 35 Brake Rate: 40 -> 35 Move Speed: 40 -> 35 Build Rate (M): 27 -> 108 Fighter "Peregrine" Metal Cost: 540 -> 2160 (x4) Acceleration: 90 -> 75 Brake Rate: 90 -> 75 Move Speed: 90 -> 75 Splash Damage: 150 -> 0 Gunship "Kestrel" Metal Cost: 540 -> 2160 (x4) Acceleration: 60 -> 75 Brake Rate: 60 -> 75 Move Speed: 60 -> 75 Transport "Pelican" Metal Cost: 90 -> 270 (x3) Bomber "Hornet" Metal Cost: 810 -> 3240 (x4) Acceleration: 75 -> 60 Brake Rate: 75 -> 60 Move Speed: 75 -> 60 Damage: 110 -> 200 Splash Damage: 100 -> 200 Splash Radius: 10 -> 12 Full Damage Splash Radius: 6 -> 1 Advanced Bots Advanced Fabrication Bot Metal Cost: 1200 -> 4800 (x4) Build Rate (M): 30 -> 120 Formation preference: Back Advanced Fabrication Bot Combat Metal Cost: 1620 -> 8100 (x5) Build Rate (M): 60 -> 180 Formation preference: Back Assault Bot "Slammer" Metal Cost: 360 -> 1400 (x3.9) Damage: 75 -> 25 Rate of Fire: 1 -> 4 Weapon Range: 100 -> 110 Sniper Bot "Gil-E" Metal Cost: 540 -> 2160 (x4) Formation preference: Back Advanced Vehicles Advanced Fabrication Vehicle Metal Cost: 1200 -> 4800 (x4) Build Rate (M): 30 -> 120 Formation preference: Back Tank "Leveller" Metal Cost: 450 -> 1800 (x4) Acceleration: 70 -> 100 Brake Rate: 70 -> 100 Move Speed: 7 -> 10 Turn Speed: 60 -> 90 Armored Vehicle "Vanguard" Metal Cost: 675 -> 2700 (x4) Acceleration: 70 -> 100 Brake Rate: 70 -> 100 Move Speed: 7 -> 10 Mobile Artillery "Sheller" Metal Cost: 575 -> 2700 (x4.7) Acceleration: 500 -> 100 Brake Rate: 500 -> 100 Move Speed: 5 -> 10 Turn Speed: 45 -> 60 Formation preference: Back Advanced Ships Advanced Fabrication Ship Metal Cost: 1200 -> 4800 (x4) Build Rate (M): 30 -> 120 Battleship "Leviathan" Metal Cost: 3240 -> 12960 (x4) Missile Ship "Stingray" Metal Cost: 3240 -> 12960 (x4) Advanced Orbital Advanced Radar Satellite Metal Cost: 2400 -> 8000 (x3.3) Health: 2000 -> 5000 Defense Satellite "Anchor" Metal Cost: 2400 -> 4000 (x1.7) Health: 5000 -> 2000 Can no longer move No longer has ground vision Damage: 15 -> 25 Rate of Fire: 5 -> 1 Can now target ground Orbital Laser "SXX-1304 Laser Platform" Metal Cost: 25000 -> 39600 (x1.5) Health: 1000 -> 1500 Splash Radius: 5 -> 20 Full Damage Splash Radius: 2 Ammo Capacity: 10000 -> 40000 Ammo Demand: 5000 -> 20000 Ammo Per Shot: 10000 -> 40000 Advanced Structures Advanced Metal Extractor Metal Cost: 750 -> 3000 (x4) Metal Production: 28 -> 24 Advanced Aircraft Factory Metal Cost: 5670 -> 7200 Build Rate (M): 27 -> 108 Advanced Bot Factory Metal Cost: 5500 -> 7200 Build Rate (M): 36 -> 144 Advanced Vehicle Factory Metal Cost: 5500 -> 7200 Build Rate (M): 45 -> 180 Advanced Naval Factory Metal Cost: 6600 -> 7200 Build Rate (M): 54 -> 162 Air Defence "Flak Cannon" Metal Cost: 600 -> 2400 (x4) Nuke Launcher Metal Cost: 5410 -> 21640 (x4) Build Rate (E): 4500 -> 18000 Build Rate (M): 45 -> 56 Missile Metal Cost: 32400 -> 129600 Nuclear Missiles are no longer constrained within a gravity well (can be targeted anywhere in the system) Anti Nuke Launcher Metal Cost: 21780 -> 18000 Build Rate (E): 3000 -> 9000 Build Rate (M): 36 -> 56 No longer contains a pre-built missile Missile Metal Cost: 17280 -> 10080 Missile Turn Rate: 360 -> 3600 Artillery "Holkins" Metal Cost: 9000 -> 36000 (x4) Full Damage Splash Radius: 10 -> 5 Ammo Capacity: 100000E -> 400000E Ammo Demand: 5000 -> 20000E Ammo per shot: 100000 -> 400000E Advanced Radar Metal Cost: 1800 -> 7200 (x4) Tactical Missile Launcher "Catapult" Metal Cost: 6750 -> 27000 (x4) Ammo Capacity: 5000 -> 20000 Ammo Demand: 500 -> 2000 Ammo per Shot: 5000 -> 20000 Ion Defense "Umbrella" Health: 3500 -> 1500 Damage: 350 -> 100 Weapon Velocity: 1100 -> 1000 Ammo Capacity: 3000 -> 1000 Ammo Demand: 1000 -> 4000 Ammo Per Shot: 1000 -> 250 Rate of Fire: 0.5 -> 2 Advanced Torpedo Launcher Metal Cost: 2250 -> 9000 (x4) Advanced Sonar Metal Cost: 2160 -> 6480 (x3)
Per the PTE post, if you wish to play a PTE build, you _must_ use the new launcher. Neither Steam nor the old launcher has a concept of our streams.
Downloaded new launcher to try out new PTE build. Got error "Failed to update one or more files. Check log for details." multiple times. Does the same thing with 'VERIFY' button. Attaching log
Ah, gotcha. I'm still not sure I understand the steps here - I've installed the new launcher, but it's still using the old version. Clicking "verify" seems to have downloaded something, but when I went into the game I was still in version 64498. How do you switch between versions?
After logging in, click on your username, then click Build Options... and enable the PTE stream. Then switch streams from the drop down and the left and click Verify.
As far as I see in log it's report problems only with .js, .exe and .dll files. Any chance you have some anti-virus installed that blocking them for some reason?
Just played a match against the AI - might be glitch, but they built a small T1 naval base, massed a bunch of ships, then just sat there the whole game. Made it easy to nuke them (TAKE THAT SORIAN! I WIN!). Anyway, it was a 1v1 one game on a medium-ish earth planet, with a small moon orbiting, if that info helps. The AI basically just got stuck in a pond for some reason. I'll play more AI games and report back if there's any more glitches.
naval was one of the latter (if not the last) branches the AI got a hold of. so probably a bit buggy still.
just tried out some of the changes. will update when i find new things (unless Raevn beats me to it). 1 - GrenaDoxen (as i call them) do indeed have their lobbed projectiles now. it actually seems to give them an edge in "rough" terrain. and fights between two sets of doxen gets...interesting. 2 - the orbital factory can churn out orbitals like its nothing. IMPORTANT EDIT the adv. air fabber requires 108 metal to run. BUT the adv metal extractor only provides 24 metal. therefore, you need 4-5 T2 extractors to run ONE adv air fabber. hmmmmmmm.... mighty expensive builders, ya?
Avast! was a pain during my install, and caused a similar error until I disabled it, so do check this out.
What alternative would you recommend? It seems to do the job adequately - if there is a legitimately better alternative I am extremely open to suggestions (should we take this to PM to avoid a thread derail?)
