Gamers Killing Video Game Industry, Gamers Don't Know What They Want!

You've yet to prove that innovation is subjective. I've presented an argument why it isn't. You just said YEA IT IS (might I add in a very condescending manner? At least I don't try and fail at hiding my douchiness).

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Ok, how many open-world games have multiple playable characters which interact with each other?

How does that significantly change the gameplay? Seriously, uniqueness is not the same thing as innovation.

Let me try a different angle:
Do you believe that in ten years people will look back at the GTA SP and say "yeah that was definitely a gamechanger" like people do now with the likes of the first GTA, Quake, Mario and what have you?

Quite a few....
Final Fanatsy 1-13.
Phantasy Star (All)
Dead island and riptide...
Asherons Call (The original WoW)
WoW
+ many many more

In my opinion. Innovation doesn't even exist !!!!

There is "Invention" :- when something new that doesn't exist in any shape or form is made..

And there is "Re-Purposing/Re-Making/Re-using" :- where you take something that already exist's in some form or another and re-use it for another purpose or function or combine it with another thing to make something more convenient, functional, or interesting...


Edited, fixed missing sentence (stoopid touchscreen typing thingo)

In reply to @thetrophysystem 's opening post........

The gaming industry is much like the music or movie industries because its a part of the entertainment industry in general,
How many crap movies have been made, or sequels, prequels, preludes, remakes and so on..
The movie industry is still thriving and evolving, that's because it's in demand, the same with the music and the gaming industries they are also in demand..
We have a need to entertain ourselves so the entertainment industry will never die out, only evolve to satisfy our needs...

There was a word missing there, "open world sandbox" oops.

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For the last time I am not saying GTA V revolutionized gaming, it revolutionized the GTA series. Do you read these!?

I can read. Can you think? I'm just saying you shouldn't use the world innovation for something like that.

It took a concept and made it new, fresh, arguably better.

It fits the definition.

If you are going to argue semantics, do it right.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation

1: the introduction of something new
2: a new idea, method, or device

Notice the complete lack of scope in the definition.

Examples:

She is responsible for many innovations in her field.

The scope of the word able to be defined within the sentence, as it is in the example. It can also be used to define the creation of new ideas, which is a process that involves lots of not new ideas being used.

End of argument. Now get back to talking about how originality doesn't make a game any better.

Get rekked nerds.

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Guys...

DUDE IS THAT DIDDYK?

I'm pretty sure that's him. I'm quite curious about the circumstances actually.

Edit: Most people here probably don't know this guy, but he appeared in this thread before. I wonder if anyone can spot him.

In the opening vid?

You got nothing on my GIFs.

Hope you guys have calmed down by now. No need to get overly excited, guys.

Let's return to the original statement in the video. "Gamers demand innovation in games but punish developers who deliver on it." There might be some truth to this if you glance at console games. Many games that were innovative did not do as well as expected. Prominent example: Mirror's Edge. Fantastic game with fresh ideas, didn't sell enough copies to get a part 2 until recently.

On the other hand, are we not missing something? What about the Wii? It had an innovative controller. That and it's affordable price made it very successful. There is room for innovation in the console market but it is very dangerous to invest into it. You can lose a ton of money if things go south.

Meanwhile you can develop for a bargain on the PC - compared to consoles. If you make an innovative game chances are you will develop for the PC. That's where you can experiment without putting the livelihood of hundreds of people at risk. Minecraft, Kerbal Space Program, The Stanley Parable, Papers Please, Telltale's The Walking Dead...

The problem are not the gamers who don't want innovation, the problem is that leaps of innovation are too dangerous on consoles. There is a very limited number of companies that can take a huge financial risk like that and not go out of business if the game catches dust on the shelves. THQ took some risks in that regard and look what happened to them. Chopped up and sold. Not that it came as a surprise.


If you want innovation you have to look for indie games on the PC. Their budgets are often limited so you have to deal with dated looking art assets or a lack of content and polish. But you will find something new, fresh and interesting every so often.

If you are looking for highly polished games with stunning graphics, expensive cutscenes and big budget campaigns or story you look to consoles or games ported from a console. Their games can be fun, even if it is the 17th iteration of the same franchise but it won't be anything ground-breaking. Unless some company is willing to make a very expensive financial gamble. But they can only do that if they have enough Maddens, FIFAs and CoD clones funding it.

I was like "REALLY WHERE?"



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Have not read anything. But, i woulde say if ur brave enught. Make a game where u can do the most horribel things u coulde ever imagine. Bully em to suicide, kill`em(in the most horribel way) tear of orgens such as hearts, livers etc on ur own mother, Grandpa or random people.
You will acaully feel sick, sick enught to feel it inside. Like Far Cry 3, pushing that bullet into you`re own brother.
Just child`s play compaird to this. Tear of his Spine via ahole.I have yet to seen a game i just dont want to play cuz it makes me sick, puke sick. Then have the game end with nothing. Just nothing but ur horribel feelings. That`s preety much what u look for in a game.. a feeling. Maybe that woulde be a gamechanger to how people are playing games nowdays.

It`s a game, no rule`s.

That woulde make headlines, tv news, everyone will be talking about That Game, everyone want`s to try it. To feel it.
Anyway i dident know "gamer`s" were destroying the game`s. I find that hard to belive. Why woulde u play a puppy game if you dident like puppy`s? You`re just playing cuz u dont know what u want to play?
Makes zero sense.
The Idea is too make the damn best game u coulde ever play. Challange you, push u to ur limits, what kind of a person are you. Make u feel soo much more, that`s the" idea". Focusing on you as a person.

That's a horrible idea for so many reasons.

I know right I know u woulde play it. I know u woulde tell all ur friends about it. Hate it, Love it.
But in the end everyone woulde be playing it or atlest played it once and talked about it too allmost everyone...well maybe not playing it but like trying to go futher. Give`s u that feeling u acaully pay`d for.