Favorite faction poll

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by ke55, March 13, 2014.

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What faction is your favorite?

Poll closed March 20, 2014.
  1. Faction 1

    2.2%
  2. Faction 2

    6.5%
  3. Faction 3

    13.0%
  4. Faction 4

    30.4%
  5. Dont care about factions

    47.8%
  1. ke55

    ke55 Member

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    Now that the 4th faction is out i wanna see wich factions are peoples favorites. Quick recap:

    faction 1 wants to unite all commanders through power.

    second believes in a god and wants to destroy those that don't as well as humans.

    Faction 3 wants to destroy all that is not machine, and those who oppose them.

    faction 4 thinks machines are imperfect and wants help from humans to become perfect, they also merge multiple commanders into one that has less flaws.

    Wich faction is your favorite, do you care about the factions at all? Don't hesitate to tell me if i got a faction wrong or something.
    Sources:
    Faction 1: http://www.uberent.com/pa/2013/09/19/lore-reveal/
    Faction 2: http://www.uberent.com/pa/2013/10/14/lore-reveal-2/
    Faction 3: http://www.uberent.com/pa/2013/12/17/lore-faction-3-reveal/
    Faction 4: http://www.uberent.com/pa/2014/03/07/lore-update-faction-4-reveal/
  2. TheLambaster

    TheLambaster Active Member

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    Wait, machines that got religious believes? I personally couldn't care less about lore. And this lore does not even appeal to me. It kind of gives me the transformers vibes... which is not a good thing, because I find transformers extremely silly.
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  3. ke55

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    i dont get that faction either, but they got A.I. So why not? Also i knew alot of people didnt care about the lore, but even i underestimated the results as of yet xD
  4. TheLambaster

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    I don't know... maybe you would think vastly advanced machine intelligence would have gotten rid of such ludicrous things as religion or beliefs in deities? Maybe...
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  5. ke55

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    They have been created by a civelization that has believers, also their memory has been corrupted.
  6. TheLambaster

    TheLambaster Active Member

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    Intelligence and memory are functionally widely independent.^^
  7. ke55

    ke55 Member

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    Intelligence is what you do with your memories. If you got no or corrupted memory, intelligence will get you nowere.

    Edit: or wrong memories, like the memory of actually seeing the god? Memory is unreliable yet the only thing thinking beings can rely on
  8. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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  9. TheLambaster

    TheLambaster Active Member

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    So, an advanced intelligence is incapable of making up its own mind on the basis of his supreme intellect,but rather relies on fragmented pieces of knowledge which it happens to have been initialized with? According to that premise nobody would ever be able to change his mind about anything, because apparently he only operates on memories rather than reflecting upon fresh input, comparing it with and integrating it into existing memories.


    So what? A story by Asimov. And? It's fiction and has no value as an argument, as long as there is no factaual reasoning behind it that leads to the idea of a machine-invented religion. In which case you could just go straight to the reasoning part rather than the story.
  10. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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    I'm just saying, the idea's been explored. Not by just anyone, but by the top author (in my opinion) for robot/AI-centric Sci Fi.
  11. TheLambaster

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    I can just repeat myself. As long as there is no factual reasoning behind it that leads to the idea of a machine-invented religion, posting the link to the artcile about this story as a quasi-argument against what I said has no merit. And if there is reasoning, just go ahead and state it, rather than posting that story.
  12. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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    Probably best to read the story. For context.
  13. TheLambaster

    TheLambaster Active Member

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    If you want to make a point you need to state it, supported by reasoning. Just telling people to read something is not good way of leading discussions or conveying one's perspective, unless that reading material serves the basis for the discussion (like a fundamental textbook on a subject the discussion is about) which here does not apply, since no basis has to be established for the level this conversation is taking place on. Furthermore I doubt it would be impossible to shortly summarize the hypothetical reasoning behind the story, that the article by the way does not provide which, leads to the assumption there is no such thing, though your bearing suggest otherwise.

    And fianlly I mostly don't care for stories.
  14. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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    I'm sorry for not memorizing the whole thing and posting copyright material.
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  15. TheLambaster

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    I want you to supply the reasoning behind the thing, not the story or the summary of the story. That is quite a diffrence there.
  16. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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    I'd need to go over the story again. Which I don't currently have access to. Which is why I was trying to encourage you to do your own research.
  17. BulletMagnet

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    The story told in the latest lore release was possibly the best. I did love reading that.

    However, they still count for naught.
  18. TheLambaster

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    Ah, ok. I thought you were being a ****.^^ Sorry for the misunderstanding then.
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  19. ke55

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    Lol stop fighting its just story somebody made up xD lol got ninjad there. The robots were built for a purpose meaning they have one specific goal. The fragmenting of its memory becouse of that probably deleted that goal. Forcing them to create one on the spot and following that unquestioned
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  20. Geers

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    That "somebody" is one of the greatest science fiction writers of all time and may have saved us from a robot apocalypse.
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