[Guidelines] How to play like a Gentleman

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by Martenus, February 12, 2014.

  1. brianpurkiss

    brianpurkiss Post Master General

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    Good batch of guidelines.

    I like the names section. When commentating and there's a name that is a jumble of letters I just call them by their color. Annoying.

    Thanks for the share!
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  2. someonewhoisnobody

    someonewhoisnobody Well-Known Member

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    Most games people call be Nobody :)
  3. arseface

    arseface Post Master General

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    I consider those last minutes a good opportunity to get to know your opponent and talk about the game. Something people seem to have forgotten as automated matchmaking systems have become commonplace.

    I am not an AI, and neither is my opponent. Even if it is futile, the way you go down is just as important as the fact that you did.

    Most of the people calling "gg" are saying it out of "gentlemanly obligation" not because they mean it.

    If all I wanted was a challenge and a "gg" at the end I'd play the ai with an eco crutch.
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  4. wpmarshall

    wpmarshall Planetary Moderator

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    Interesting points for a more mature experience, though I'm not sure I'm entirely comfortable with providing user's actual names as examples.
  5. tehtrekd

    tehtrekd Post Master General

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    THERE ARE NO GENTLEMEN IN WAR!
    Seriously though, this thread is good.
  6. nimblegorilla

    nimblegorilla New Member

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    It's kind of sad that you think people say gg when they don't mean it.

    If someone keeps playing a few extra minutes when they are obviously losing I don't mind, but when someone uses cheap tactics to delay the game (such as rushing off-planet at the last minute and then bouncing between empty planets) then that qualifies as poor sportsmanship in my opinion.

    Likewise - if someone runs away from their only base and starts building turrets just to pick off some attackers and live a minute longer I find it futile, but I guess it can turn into a comeback against new players.
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  7. raygun1

    raygun1 New Member

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    GG.
    I remember many, many years ago when it really had so much meaning behind it. I preferred GG so much more in the days of when it was reserved to only be said when a game really was a GG, not just as a way of being polite in defeat.
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  8. cwarner7264

    cwarner7264 Moderator Alumni

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  9. carlorizzante

    carlorizzante Post Master General

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    I get annoyed when my opponent gives up. That's not fun, and learning how to lose means also that you fight until the very end and do not close the game, just because you can't stand the humiliation of defeat.

    Plus, the other night I was left with my sole Commander, and I had a great fun fighting back an entire army roaming the unique planet in the System (no escape there), looking for me. My opponent didn't complain and I assume he found the situation quite hilarious because at some point, he sent one single Bot to finish my Commander.

    Of course, it's an exception. It all originated by my defensive strategy to never let him find my Commander after his frequent, massive attack, and keep moving and rebuilding a new base again and again, in places he did not suspect.

    I also learned how to cope with an opponent with greatest capabilities than myself. You may say that that's non-sense, but in a larger scaled war game, where you may expect reinforcements from your allies, be able to survive a little longer can make a difference. So, that's a skill to learn.

    Apart for that, good rules. Just remember that war has never been pretty.
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  10. Martenus

    Martenus Well-Known Member

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    I will look into that.
  11. Martenus

    Martenus Well-Known Member

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    "GG" is virtual shaking hands after battle, that is the way it is. Even in normal sport you sometimes have matches end soon, because you already lost.

    Come to 1v1 tournament this Saturday, I bet you will see "gg" called many times, before commander actually dies. Especially in matches with higher ranked players.

    And as TheWrongCat highlighted, it is guidelines, not actual rules. It is a recommendation observed from other competitive RTS games.
  12. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    AHAHAHAHAHA!! now we have complaints on both sides! complaints from people that don't want people to quit out and complaints from people that DO want their opponent to quit out.

    listen chap. If you don't have the patience to take out your opponent who's flying around the system or something, then TOUGH.

    jesus what will we complain about next? the enemy's bots blowing up AND ours? we only want the opponent's bots to blow up?

    this is in no way, in my opinion, in anyway resembling or related to gentlemanliness. let alone make up one THIRD of what constitutes it, why not a third part of the rules detailing small exploits not to use or something like that instead.

    It's never over 'till it's REALLY REALLY freaking over, don't sell the bear's hide until you've slain it, sometimes players can catch a draw (or a win!) from the grave, and if they are talented enough to do so they damn well deserve to try![​IMG]
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  13. carlorizzante

    carlorizzante Post Master General

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    I totally agree.

    Apart that we all know how the game isn't completed yet, and there are many shadows to be exploited. Like Orbital hiding. Those may be a non-sense, and there is little to learn from those strategies.
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  14. schuesseled192

    schuesseled192 Active Member

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    Just because you've lost doesn't mean you have to let your opponent win.
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  15. wheeledgoat

    wheeledgoat Well-Known Member

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    It's good you labelled your list as [guidelines]. There's a few things I'd disagree with, and I consider myself a gentleman and I sleep pretty well at night. (Ex: the names. I think you're confusing what irks you with gentlemanly. Live and let live, bro.)

    The fresh perspective I have to offer is this:
    Don't set yourself up for letdown by expecting others to adhere to your own ethics.
    It's great you started this thread, it's let to some interesting input. It'd be really swell if some people, esp. some younger kids would take note, but don't count on it. The next time someone breaks one of your guidelines, just smile and recite the above Serenity Prayer! ;)

    Oh, and you can expect me to fight until the end. I will never press DELETE on my commander! EVER! Suicide is pretty much the antithesis of gentlemanly in my book. You'll have to come and get me to earn your victory.
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  16. drz1

    drz1 Post Master General

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    yeh, I tend to just write "well played" if I was beaten, but didn't find the game particularly enjoyable. That way, I'm polite but still sincere.
  17. Xagar

    Xagar Active Member

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    I don't understand why people complain when people concede. You won, be happy.
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  18. mot9001

    mot9001 Well-Known Member

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    Ehm, i've played some FFA and i think a FFA should always be a FFA above anything else, i don't mind any of the dirty tactics and i usually don't use any myself. Gentlemans rules in general should contain don't shoot your enemy's airfields with fighters, this is my only personal rule.
  19. Martenus

    Martenus Well-Known Member

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    Oki guys,
    again I would like to point out some important things:

    1. These are guidelines
    2. I will ignore your comments from now on if you do not read the full guideline, but only first couple sentences
    3. Again, guidelines, you do not have to follow this nor agree on every single point, take the best from this, leave the rest

    So, my last comment on people raging about people "giving up". It is not giving up at all. It is simply saving time for both players. I specified the cases in which it is good to concede, most of you who rage the most here probably didn't read that far, well, your problem, but I have nothing to be ashamed of.

    So again, when to know you lost:
    Your base is pretty much gone, you have either no energy or no mex or no factories left, almost nothing, seriously. You managed to escape the raiding party with your commander and you are gonna run around, spamming turrets and stretching the game. This is the moment you should just concede and say "gg". It is not giving up, it is not being a ****.
    This also applies to 1v1 battles if your entire main base is gone and you managed to escape the planet with only your commander, you have nothing left but the commander and the carrier unit. This IS a "gg" no matter what you think. If you want to play a boring 30 minute orbital game, go on, for most competitive players, it is a **** move. Simple as that. And they will crush you anyway. You cannot win. Maths.

    In FFAs it is DIFFERENT. If you manage to escape your base with your commander, you can either try to setup a new base or comm-bomb someone's base. That is the way FFAs work. Same with escaping the planet, you have a chance that players on the main planet will ignore you and you will have time to rise up again on a moon or another planet.

    And I will write it again now, I can see who didn't read the whole thing and if you are going to complain after not reading the whole thing, I will simply ignore your posts.

    I am looking for a valuable feedback, not random yapping. Thank you.
  20. arthursalim

    arthursalim Active Member

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    Im soo sorry but i have to do it


    Btw nice thread

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