haters gonna hate

Point me where it's stated on the store page that the game is sold at an higher price than the final release, and so that you are buying less for more?

I'm not trolling, I'm stating a fact, and I'm asking a simple question :
If I'm wrong and uber is actually giving all the informations, where are they?

Maybe I'm wrong and they are on the store page, but then, why don't you point them to me?

Keep repeating that "it's okay" or that "every information is given" doesn't make it true.

I did not have any trouble finding the information needed - why should anyone else?
Didn't they even have a big statement about the pricing on the steam page when it was released there?

If people are finding the pricing bad there is two options:

- Find more about the price and why it is so high if you want to play the game that much
- Don't buy it

That's really all there is to this topic.
I invested 250$ in PA (after the kickstarter was finished) because I love the idea of this game.
I don't even feel slightly scammed by them lowering the price because I informed myself before spending money, just
like EVERYONE else should.

Obviously they doing it for money and they need money because game development is expensive. It's sad that some people didn't understand such way of game funding, but I doubt it's can affect sales at all because most of players completely don't care about that like they don't care about DRM or developer/publisher reputation.

I'm not sure the main argument against editor was exactly "editors don't give us money, help us!".
It was much more :
"Editors are not interested in such games anymore" => Meaning, yes they will not give money for such a game.
"Editors are looking for cash machine games" => Such a game is not a cash machine
"Because editor give the money, the game will never be what devs vision is"
Uber is made of talented people interested in making very good games, and probably not with the very first purpose of being million sellers. of course if they can be million sellers it will help them to make their next games.
But as Neutrino stated, this game is not intended for the mass. Thus, Yes they need money.
You really think money can be made easily ? this is bullshit. And because it can't be made easy, then they do all they can to grab lots of money. I could understand your complaint if the current state of PA was awfull. It's the absolute opposite.
It's obvious to me you became some kind of hater just because you feel frustrated about the different choices they made with the game design. And your blablabla related to the "early access" and "beta" concerns make you definitly lose credibility.

So let's me ask again, where is it?

I think you should know the situation Uber is in with no publisher they can use all the money they can get to make the game better. So using an available system like early access on steam (people here on the forums i.e. also kept asking for it quite a lot) makes sense to me.
It's a plain realistic concept. Uber needs money, so they sell their stuff to whoever buys it. Anyone who wants a good PA should know that that is fundamental to PA. The steam sales enabled Uber to hire multiple additional developers.

Steam early access is quite direct about stating the games are incomplete. Anyone should know what that means. If not that is not the fault of Uber.

I am starting to wonder if I write badly or if people can't read.

It's NOT about the fact that the game is incomplete.

It's about the fact that the RELEASE game will be CHEAPER than the CURRENT BETA price.
And so, that you are paying, currently, MORE money for LESS content than people in a few months will.

You get the stuff earlier. That has been a good reason for stuff being more expensive since a very long time.

EDIT:
It also underlines the meaning of the early sales: They are meant for fans who want to support the game with as much money as they can. That's why Uber has a 250$ package on their own store after all.

It's true for every early access game on Steam because mostly every game on Steam get 40-50% discount just in half year after release. People who wait will always get more finished/polished product with greater discount.

Except you have access to the same amount of content as people in a few months, plus every pre feature complete iteration of the game. . Oh, and you have access to the game months in advance.

If this is really bothering you that much, email support.

Ok, I have lost all in the game industry now.

Fine, it's okay, perfectly normal and very very good for the consumer. Hopefully I'm not a big one
myself.

And the store page is perfectly clear about future clarification and actual content of the game. (even nobody was able to tell me where that information is exactly).

Any game always get cheaper the older it is. That's common knowledge to anyone who buys games.
That's why your comparision of the FA price with the PA price is just a plain joke.
My first copy of SupCom + FA cost me 70€. Not 7€.

Yes nobody can tell how PA will look like in the end. Game development just does not work like that. It never did. But before this process was hidden away by the developers/publishers. Now they are allowing us to watch the process and even comment on it and give feedback. Not even Uber can tell how it will look in the end. Especially not now, when they are inviting lots and lots of people to comment on their unfinished product, giving completely unpredictable input.

mo

anything this community disagrees with is trolling

Posting the same crap over and over again when it has been discussed countless times just to gain attention IS trolling.

Correct!

When you buy next season's clothes, what exactly are you paying for?


Because come the season after next, what are prices like?

In New Zealand retail stores are very happy to sell winter clothes through June/July/August, and then do a massive sale just in time for Spring.

Most adults won't significantly grow out of clothes over the summer.


So what exactly are you paying for when you buy 'this season's clothes'?




Likewise, pre order of the Galaxy S4 was $1150. Now it costs $999.


It costs Samsung the same amount to make and ship the handsets.

Why the price difference?

Back to clothes again, there are certain retail outlets in the States that sell pretty much the same sets of clothes, just with a different brand on the label. The brands are owned by the same parent company, and the pricing is often radically different between brands.

What exactly are you paying for?

Better example - dairy products.

In NZ we have a small number of companies competing in the dairy industry.

One such company is Fonterra.

Fonterra supply milk to a number of brands.

Anchor milk is $4.30 for a 2L bottle.

Budget is $3.30 or so.

It's the same milk. Same cows, same tank, same machine, same batch, different bottle, different packaging. Same conveyer. Someone stopped the line, switched the bottles. That's all.

Most people know it's the same. And a proportion of those people still choose Anchor when the two bottles are next to one another.

What do they pay for? Why do they want to spend more?

I suggest that answering that question will clear your current confusion.

I think you don't understand the concepts of finished products and sales.

Maybe in NZ they are selling only the arms of clothes then the body on sales?

Or they are selling the Galaxy S4 without the screen for $1150 then the complete product for $999?

But I don't think it's the case in the rest of the world.

Seriously there is tons of games on market that released in unfinished and even broken state and still they don't become bad games because of that. I don't see any difference between them and PA except fact they were promoted as completed games.

For example mostly every Total War game released partially broken and unfinished, other example is Fallout: New Vegas or Battlefield 4.

This is worst than I though.

You seriously can't see the difference between a game that has bugs from a game were half the stuff are simply not there?
The difference between a game released too soon (probably still a late beta stage) from a game that is not feature-complete?

I know BF4 is buggy, but AFAIK, all the maps, animations and weapons are in the game.