haters gonna hate

NOT ME.

Whats your point? You said nothing to refute anything I said so I have no idea why I got quoted lol I said PA's vision for release, as far as they have stated, is still missing many features that are loved in FA. Modding is PA's saving grace

afaik i did not quote you
[edit] hum yes i did What i meant is that at some point with a limited budget and a small team you cannot achieve all the things people would like to have in this game. Not because you think there are mandatory features which should have been included means they have to be. Again there were no promises.

Neutrino makes room for things he likes and we know full well they push back release dates to fit them in. Whenever he mentions "Budget" or "time" when dismissing an idea that's code for "**** your idea, because I don't like it". It's his go-to dismissal when he can't think of a good reason why it's a bad idea. While that is well within his right, the optimist in me usually assumes every human is reasonable

Good thing PA has modding, as I said before. It will save the game from bad design choices

I don't play this game. And you now why ?
Because random generated maps sux !
You can have a great game on paper but if maps design suck then the game will suck ...
And this why TA fails for now.

My favorite complaint archetype of all time is the classic forum post that opens with :

"I lost a game today.." and then continues with the rant. Whenever I read that first line.. I imagine them saying it in a softspoken, sad, confession. Like they just told you they where told bad results from the doctor today. Nobody is going to put a jacket over your cold rainy shoulders because you dislike the need to build aircraft. Uber isnt in the boardroom discussing how too many people are losing and they need to find a way to balance the game so that both sides win. Dear god, is this Civ? Is peaceful resolve a victory condition in the next patch? Will our next Lore release be a hint at the final directive of the factions? The directive of robot love for all?

Maybe we should make both the win and lose conditions say "Victory" at the end of the game moments before the game crashes because your computer is disapointed in how you entertain yourself.

I like random maps, but I also agree that not having the option for static ones is a mistake. Again, thank god for modding! (Though, I have a sinking feeling I'll eat those words if modding isn't a 1st class citizen on release...)

Man, I put 250$ in this game. Since a very long time i keep asking for very specific answers, i do not get them.
I will not complain. At some point, when putting money into this game means you trust uber vision. You might not like all choices Neutrino and the team does. But that's the way it is. At some point decisions have to be made. I'm not ok with all choices Uber did, but this is the rule. I paid for a global vision. I did not expect to individually influence any Uber decision. An i really prefer to have the boss taking decisions than the boss changing is mind each time a single person disagrees.

I put money in this game for the beta and I wouldn't be sad if I didn't get to play a single game before release. I backed so I could have my voice heard in the shaping of this game and effect it's final vision, and backing was the way I could give my voice some weight. We all have our reasons for backing, don't assume everyone shares yours...

Edit: 420 th post! W00t

uhmm
actually, If you follow TB's videos and such you'll know it's all google's fault, the old comment section from youtube was bad enough. Implementing Google plus just made it go from bad to worse.

Truly a cornerstone of human literature..

I love random maps beyond anything. Age of Empires II, anyone? Holy-moly that was a blast for multiplayer.
Right now I dont think we have enough control of the maps, its too evenly random. I am hoping that parameters such as "islands", the classic "Archipelago", large continants, flatlands, etc come into play in the design to make more controlled mapping. It's just so evenly random that they are almost always the same map in its subtly unique way.

They are putting a big focus on modding for exactly this reason. The developers know that they can't make the perfect game. There really isn't a theoretical perfect game, because everyone has different ideas of what would be fun. In order to make a game that a lot of people like on the budget they have, they need to make some compromises that will leave everyone a little unhappy. The micro people are currently unhappy because the game has huge armies. The macro people are disappointed because you can get good results from micromanaging a small force. If any sub-group of PA fans wants to change the balance to focus on just one style of play, that is encouraged.

Seriously who gives a rats butt to what fanboys and haters think ?
Let them trashtalk how much they want ... just go on as always
Welcome the new dudes intrested into this game (or any game of interest for that matter) explain to them what things are about and help them to have a good time with the game and its playerbase/community
This is what a true gamer is striving for ... ähem ...

OK let's say Uber listen to each individual of the 40.000 backers. Do you really think PA will ever exist ?

I just wish the best and most popular ideas always filtered into the game. Some things get a "No" from Uber no matter how popular

Not because it's popular means it must/can be done. There are enough thread where Uber has clearly offered discussion. Just because something is popular does not mean it's the best choice.

If a person financially supported their idea for a game in order for it to get made, then took the time to register on the forum and leave a meaningful post about their concerns it would be callous for Uber to not even read it, if not take the time to resond

I have flamed Uber enough by the past to know that they read your posts

I've always cut them some slack. It's not an easy job and in fact it's quite impressive in relation to their problem solving abilities. The physics and pathing alone would have been no small task and I don't mean time wise (which is obvious) but in working out solutions for interplanetary war on planets!

The computer should subliminally say " L2P" in the blue screen

I actually hate the thread titles that are little more obnoxious like "this game is going to fail \because of X\missing X\since the graphics aren't X "

Seems like the Posters are experienced game developers and Uber should take a thing or two from them or their game is going to go down the drain.