Rename Leveler to PeaShooter

Hey all,

Been trying to think up some good new names for the leveler. I was thinking "Pea Shooter" would be an adequate rename. Or perhaps, "Poker" or "A faint breeze"...perhaps "Paper Cutter"?

Levelers were at one point in time appropriately named for they would level your base if they got past your defenses. Now... about 90 of them might hurt a few things but most likely get annihilated without destroying more than a couple buildings.

seriously !!

This is good, use combined arms; Specifically mobile/stationary artillery and bombers for base killing duty with tanks to engage enemy units and less hardened structures, while bots hit the flanks and raid exposed areas, surely this is intended, certainly it makes sense.

Levellers got the short end of the stick in the current state of the ongoing unfinished rebalance.
Build t2 bots instead until futher changes.
Compare the dps:

t2 bot: http://www.nanodesu.info/pa-db/59549/unit/assault_bot_adv.html
t2 tank: http://www.nanodesu.info/pa-db/59549/unit/tank_laser_adv.html

25 vs 150. Poor levellers.

Even better, build sniper bots and one hit kite your enemies to death

So did they just forget a 0 or something or why do t1 bots have just about as much dps as levelers?

Because bots rapid fire, levellers have better burst damage.

Tickle Tank
Tickle me Tank

To quote Scathis:

I think that's what has happened to the Leveler, and it will probably be drastically different in the next patch.
That's my guess.

Yes!!! Thats perfect!

Gee, well thats not gonna screw with anyone going about it in that type of method. =P

I think one reason for the nerf might be to get people to try out the vanguard a bit more.
Only problem with that though is there are no formations yet, and the unit, being new is somewhat broken in terms of balance.
But that's the point isn't it? We're all Beta Testers!

Haha!

Has anyone else noticed that levelers can't kill T1 tanks? Last game I played the levelers got decimated by a few measly Ants because not one of the levelers could hit the tanks.. WTF? I'll post a screenshot if it happens again.

I suggest that all the units should be renamed in every patch to better suit their new characteristics.
Bluebottle > Snail
Narwhal > Sloth
Levaithan > Tortoise

Not true.
Slammer does 2*75=150 damage.
Leveller does 50 damage.

His methods seems a bit extreme. Just from doing a simple power for cost comparison between the Leveller and the Slammer you can see that the Slammer is definitely better.
Slammer Power for metal cost = 60000/360 = 166.67
Leveller Power for metal cost = 15625/450 = 34.72
Slammer is almost 5 times more costeffective and the only advantage that the Leveller got is 20 range which is arguably offset by the superior speed of the Slammer.
Although I do think that it could be good to shift the meta game around a bit.
Since players have gotten so used to depending on the Leveller it could be good to nerf it into the ground to make players test new units and strategies.

Power = DPS * health
DPS = damage per second

@Godde: you got the dps for the leveler wrong. It does 50 damage every 2 seconds. So it is 25 dps, not 50.
Makes it even worse
I am assuming that the slammer dps is just a random quirk of an unfinished game. Maybe it was forgotten, maybe it is a typo. Something like that. I doubt that much though has gone into those dps numbers.

The balance is a bit weird, but scathis has enough experience that I trust him to do a good job in the end. If this is how he wants to work then let him, it's up to us beta testers to adapt and inform him of what works and what doesn't.

I think he was surprised that some of the changes he made ended up in live build

Haha, I wasn't aware of that, is it actually something he said?

People say he said something in livestream