fukishima and the end of the world

Discussion in 'Unrelated Discussion' started by feedle, December 31, 2013.

  1. feedle

    feedle Post Master General

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    ok now that i got your attention go on youtube and search radiation ontario. mister1 videos which are pretty close to me since i live near niagara falls. what does this mean? each videos show higher levels of radiation after rainfall. since japan is west coast jetstream travels east.. west coast from san fran and up to vacouver and bc have highest levels. alberta has tests which are extremely high.. david sazuki warned what is happening and basically fukishima radiation is leaking into the world pacific ocean... so as of now the world is being poisoned by radiation. most people think moving south will save you. think again. it rains everywhere. this can be stopped if higher ups act to stop it rather then let it fail. take this how you like but its real.
  2. JammySTB

    JammySTB Well-Known Member

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    I'm a pretty young guy and I've lived through like 50 end of the worlds so far...
  3. Orome

    Orome Well-Known Member

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    Look at the bright side, all this fallout gameplay won't go to waste.
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  4. BulletMagnet

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    So, those tests in Alberta... how high is extremely high?

    Bananas are actually mildly radioactive. The dose from a banana is about as safe as you can get, so answers in units of equivalent to ingesting x bananas would be meaningful to the common forum reader.
  5. feedle

    feedle Post Master General

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    Search the results from san fran, and cali and then fukushima then youll see whats normal and the test results from the years before.
  6. BulletMagnet

    BulletMagnet Post Master General

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    Show results please.
  7. Arachnis

    Arachnis Well-Known Member

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    So, i'm in tokyo atm and i have the impression that nobody gives a damn, and frankly i dont do either. It's not like it's the japanese people's fault, could have happened anywhere. It's not like they can do anything more about it than they already do. Did you know that the chinese started on building 200 more reactors just one week after the accident? We're doomed boy, becsuse it will happen again. It's just a matter of time. I already accepted that.
  8. patema

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    Yeah, I'm a Tokyo guy and I don't give a flying fvck.
  9. Col_Jessep

    Col_Jessep Moderator Alumni

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    We EU guys made it through Chernobyl. Radiation is something you have to take serious but I think many people tend to panic due to lack of information. Even if radiation is higher after it has been raining it doesn't really mean it's dangerous. The question is: How much higher? Double, triple, ten times? It might still be in perfectly safe limits. Might be just a Youtube scare video.

    You should find out for yourself. Send a letter to your congress man, ask the health department, maybe find somebody who can answer your questions at your local university. Or even better: ask your physics or biology teacher if you are still at school.
  10. comham

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    Radiation is ludicrously overhyped as a source of danger.
  11. patema

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  12. thetrophysystem

    thetrophysystem Post Master General

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    Kony 2012.

    Radiation is a problem. It needs attention. It is not as lethal as everyone says though. ESPECIALLY if someone is known to have been subjected to it, it is very treatable if caught immediately at moderate levels.
  13. Arachnis

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    Well, that's only half the truth though. It screws up your DNA permanently, making you have mutated children and stuff.
  14. Orome

    Orome Well-Known Member

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    In a few words it gives you cancer.
  15. thetrophysystem

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    Which have a tendancy to blend back out through generations. The worse case scenario is mutations that actually cause problems, which aren't the only kind that exist.

    Again, people are exposed to radiation all the time. Our children don't have 3 arms yet. Not after the invention of microwaves. Not after Chernobyl poured radiation everywhere. Not after x-rays and cat scans as common precedures. Not after atomic clocks and glow in the dark wall stickers.

    I too would just like any proof the increase in radiation is actually as strong as all those sources put together. I haven't seen it yet, after 4 people asked.
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    Ocean's dead from our plastic,
    Our monetary system is privately owned and improversing the world,
    The biggest gold holding in the world was robbed,
    Radiation pouring into the ocean,
    Destruction of the southern states via fracking,
    Everything you view and say online is tracked and stored to potentially be used against you,

    People only care about when Miley is going to show us her a$$ next..

    Not much you can do either, most people don't care and if you cause any sort of cognitive dissonance they'll blindly hold onto what every they believe andjust spew "oh pfft you're just into conspiracy theories".. look.. it's already happened on this forum lmao.
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  17. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    The radiation that reaches the US from Japan is probably not really dangerous, however have a look at what radiation has done to people who were closer to past incidents.
    So far we've been pretty lucky that no power plant near some multimillion town went bad, it is a quite real possibility however that some day some power plant near a big town breaks and releases a cloud of radiation that can kill in short or midterm. Fukushima probably was pretty close to endangering exactly that, the Japanese were lucky that the weather somehow blew a lot of it over the sea. Even so it made hole towns uninhabitable and the long term effects are still not really visible. Not to mention that it will take years until that plant is actually in a situation that can be called "save"
  18. thetrophysystem

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    Lucky works. It is a shame people don't consider the locations better for nuclear power. Nuclear power is as close to magic as one can get. The other ones pollute at a rate that gives us an actual calendar death-date. At least nuclear power has by-products we can just collect in a barrel. Tossing barrel into volcano, optional.

    So far, jessep has had the closest thing to informative. Generally, nobody here posts numbers, besides the above stating that the immediate range was fatal (much like nuclear fallout from bombs), and the increase in "some" radiation was widespread. Some being, unless someone wants to present numbers, as much as using a microwave or atomic clock or cell phone.

    Affects on California from Japan, interests me less than what would happen if a person slept on a bed of 50+ active cell phones every night for 40 years. My condolences go out to the victims of it, especially the immediate victims.
  19. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    Just because nuclear accidents are not as easy to predict as effects of other energy sources does not make them save. In fact nuclear power basically is based on the hope that nothing will ever go really wrong. So far we were lucky, but everything that can go wrong will go wrong in time. ;)

    Consider the path that the radioactive fuel takes:

    1. It is mined
    2. It is transported to some place where it can be processed
    3. It is processed
    4. Transported again
    5. It is used in a plant, producing the most poisonous waste mankind knows
    6. The waste is transported again
    7. More transports and the unanswered question of "what do we do now with this waste?" to follow.

    Now a lot can go wrong (and has gone wrong) every time this stuff is mined, transported, processed, or used.
    Not to mention that basically the amount of waste grows and grows and grows and nobody has even the slightest idea of what to do with it. Storing it somewhere is an utterly naive way of thinking. There just is no way to store that stuff in an good way for 1000+ years. If you'd add the costs for dealing with all these problems to the cost of nuclear power you'd end up with a price that no nation could even remotely pay.
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  20. feedle

    feedle Post Master General

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    Ill post the vids and links in a min.. Most are from the geiger counters.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario..._levels_found_in_ontario_energy_minister.html

    http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/04/12/17965336.html


    This is the guy with the geiger readings city:eek:ttawa, province: ontario, Canada
    So this is pretty far east coast near me...


    Latest reading he did


    san fransico in usa reading


    Dead bald eagles from utah

    Alberta, canada


    Vancouver bc canada
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayvJWfqyfDE
    (farthest west coast of canada)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AZdhAD-KrQ
    another reading from ontario

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrHKRdPV9Pc
    Starfish dying rapidly
    Last edited: January 2, 2014

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