[NSFW/Language] Nerd³'s Poop Games of 2013 Awards - Microtransactions.

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by Culverin, December 11, 2013.

  1. Culverin

    Culverin Post Master General

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    PA has no microtransactions.
    I can't applaud Uber enough on their decision.

    Good on Uber.
    Please be one of our final bastions of hope.
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  2. brianpurkiss

    brianpurkiss Post Master General

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  3. neapolitanfrenchfrie

    neapolitanfrenchfrie Well-Known Member

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    SMNC also. All of the items in the store are purely cosmetic. We SMNC forumites like to call it "Pay2Pretty" :p
  4. brianpurkiss

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    Pay2Pretty. I like that term. I shall steal it.
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  5. sycspysycspy

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    I could not agree with most of his reviews except the Micro Transaction one ...
  6. Noogums

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    Aye, good on Uber. I like what-you-see-is-what-you-get games. Tired of micro-transactions stopping me from having all the fun the game has to offer. Especially if it's not a Free-to-Play.
  7. popededi

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    Yup, I'm proud to have supported a game following the more "old-school" development scheme.

    And I'm sad that selling something as a whole for a normal price is now old-school. These days they develop a game, sell half of it to you for £40, and then sell the other half of it to you in the form of 4-5 £10 DLC. And microtransactions.

    I make it a point to not support any game that does this. It has to be REALLY good for me to find DLC acceptable, or the game at least has to be full value on it's own. I find no problem with Bioshock Infinite for example. Or even ME2 & 3 when it comes to story DLC. Now weapon DLC and such? No thanks.
  8. Gerfand

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    this is why my mother use the FireFox "cheat", when playing candy crush...
  9. stormingkiwi

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    I have no problem with good DLC. Or with unit skins. If you have the money, good for you.

    But what is essentially a subscription to play is just dumb.
  10. Neumeusis

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    As far as i know, there wasn't any announcement that there will not be micro-transactions.
    And it will probably be quite the opposite, in a certain way.

    I remember that Neutrino mentioned, during a live stream, something regarding this.
    Was about the Uber Lab (or Uber Forge, can't remember the name we choosed...), where modders could deposit their mods, and make people pay for them if they want (like a store).
    Good idea to motivate people to create good quality content (campaigns, game modes...).

    But when there is a store open to a wide array of people, and if the said store is not tied with strong rules, there will be crap generated.
    Or one smart guy create a incredible UI/Unit/whatever mod that will be very appreciated.
    Then it will become popular (for whatever reason), and in fine you'll have to buy it to be on the same step than the others.
    And don't say "but it will be optional". It's worth jack. If it's optional, then you will not play with it. But others will. Community fragmentation. Then some people will say : screw it, i want to play with this guy, but he only play with this thing, so i have to buy it. And so on.

    Theses who does not get along the masses will get isolated, and will have 2 choices : do like the others, or die alone.
    I made my choice, i die alone...

    *Music notes; Tudu duu* This "pessimistic worst case end of the world as we know it" scenario as been provided to you by Neumeusis.
    Glad to help.
    (but it will probably happen to a certain degree, i'm pretty sure of it ;))
  11. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    I don't think it will be that bad.
    Also any sort of mod market place isnt really a micro-transaction thing, isnt it?
    Arent micro transactions more about ingame "Pay 1$ to get extra tanks right now!" things?
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    I'm really interested to see what route Uber takes with Toy Rush's business model. I understand that so far it has the hallmark "two currency" system which characterises this sort of game - the real clincher will always be what you can buy with the second currency.
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    Hummmmm, you're probably right, this would be the best way to define this things.

    But I personally consider anything you can buy from an ingame store/shop to be a micro-transaction.
  14. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    Even if it is a 10$ total conversion mod? ;)
  15. tatsujb

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    ...the most truthful part.

    explain. we had this debate in an earlier thread. read through it well.
    so, to be clear, you don't want that. right?
  16. chronosoul

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    Personally, I see micro transactions just destroying the concept of difficulty with eliminating a really hard part of the game with a couple dollars from your bank account. You beat the game yes, but at what cost?

    Games back in the old days.. (SNES, Nintendo) were so difficult that I don't even think developers took an interest if you beat the game or not. Now were having games that are only slightly difficult and then tease you with an easier path if you pay the right cost, it is perverse in its ability to convince you to give up and just pay more money to have a more enjoyable game.

    I honestly wish games would get away from being linear and formulaic and get back to the roots of "secrets, cheat codes, Short cuts, and hidden cut scenes." For me, finding something I think no one else has found is an awesome feeling. Compared to giving up and forking cash around because I want to play more candy crush or just want to skip a hard part of the game.

    I hope Toy rush doesn't get monotized... but Tower defense games can have an ugly tendency to do so.
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  17. knickles

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    hating on all micro transactions just seems like an obnoxious bandwagon to me
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  18. chronosoul

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    Which micro transactions are good?

    * I do like a micro transaction for cosmetic items and Extra skins for characters (not gameplay related)

    *also Map packs and other DLC that is attached to games to add more stuff.
  19. tatsujb

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    not to me, you gotta have sand in your eye to see any part of it as redeeming. I believe even the most faithful video game crowd there is : LoL's, will eventually become sick and tired of being taken for fools and being told their game is accepted as a "sport" when money can be the winning factor.

    I'm speaking here of LoL's obvious implementation of Pay2Win, though buffed champs in the first few days that are rebalanced afterwards. no matter what you say you always eventually have to pay to always have the champ on day one.

    then there's those games like candy crush. Honestly, I see paying to win as downright sad. And it's bad enough when it's someone who's doing it alone. But ...in a multiplayer game? really?

    Isn't it unfair enough that we're living lives with a level of life above that of poor countries and now, in a place that was before a place for all to attain perfect equality, be it on the planes of gender, race or even class; we have to bring that class domination back into this haven. I see this a downright repulsive.
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  20. knickles

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    I don't play candy crush or LoL. If they're p2w, that's a problem with the costumers and devs, not the f2p model itself.

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