Global Chat System? [poll]

Coming from SupCom, GPGNet(and Halycon in particular) for all it's issues was a huge boon to the community. Sure the Forums were still important and all that, btu Halycon was great because it gave you access to other fans/players and let you talk to them in real-time and share stories, make new friends and just hang out.

Also in my Experience the RTS Players(in particular those of the Large Scale RTS Sub-Genre) tend to just be just flat out better than many other communities in terms of overall average maturity. The GPG Forum's Off-Topic is one of the greatest communities I've ever had the pleasure of being part of and I'm really sad to it go after all these years.

No telling if PA's community has the same make-up, but the potential is there and shouldn't be ignored. Don't forget that classically only a very small percentage of players ever even used GPGNet and while PA has some advantages to getting more people involved compared to SupCom almost 7 years ago it's not going to be easy and the more tools we have to make communities possible the better in my opinion.

Mike

These are just my concerns.

I would much prefer a system where people can join into a chat centred on a continuous game lobby, lockable and not, for people to meet and play in smaller groups, to watch other play and the like.

So a kind of per lobby chat pool thingy, over a truly global chat.

I dunno how else to explain it, I might be speaking in riddles.

So like, a per lobby chat, rather then a true global chat.

That's precisely what should be prevented as it would completely remove any possibility for a general community to develop.
Imagine the forums, but with all forums locked and a big "use private conversations" sign.

That defeats the whole purpose of chatting out of a game. I want to be able to see and chat with everyone playing atm while I am at the main menu. Not just in a match lobby.

Then I will agree to disagree on the matter.

Edit: I also find it strange when you say thing like 'preventing a community from developing' when we already have a community developed.

Why is there an other option?

Should we have a global chat system?
There is either a global chat system, or there is not a global chat system. It's one of those cases where the result is fairly binary.

Well there is yes to global chat and no to global. Other could be some other kind of chat system. Like what Ign and a few others are pushing for.

That means you are against the original argument (no, we should not have a global chat system, we should have this instead)

So instead of answering "Should we wear beanies on a hot day?" with "No, wearing a beanie on a hot day makes you too hot", you are saying "Other - we should wear a sun hat instead". Which is still really a no.//

I understand what you mean.

But what that means is that you have to go into every single lobby to find an opponent (i.e. someone who wants to play no-nukes, someone who wants to play sandbox, etc)

It's no different from the already implemented and current system.

Whereas in an opt-out system, which is not currently implemented, you can just make a global invite to every player.

I'm assuming that in an opt-out global chat system, that you'll leave the global chat system by a) choosing not to start it up automatically and b) entering an actual game lobby.

Forums polls are useless anyways, imo. What the options are really mean nothing. Also if he didn't add the other option you could have users responding just to say there is no other option or something similar.

Honestly I'm okay with a global chat system popping up and in front of my screen. At least if there is an in game tournament happening or something I can see it and maybe check it out instead of playing. Global chat in my eyes is a little more then people trolling and randomly talking about gibberish, but a chance to get a little in-game news for those that don't check forums everyday( like i do now).

I never ever used the GPG forums for anything, but I enjoyed the global chat they offered and in game news about tournies and various events that it offered. I played one tournament and it was a lot of fun.

I see an argument have the global chat a button you have to click first before opening the whole thing because you don't want to see a stream of crap when you first log in.

I'm willing to bargain to just have it :

• show the news of the day or a tourney that is happening on this twitch channel, here is the in game link. in the first few lines of the chat while the rest of the chat gets grayed out.
• Graying out the chat is an option in the options menu so it isn't mandatory to see what happens
• All players at least get to know if anything hip is happening that day.

Other then that, I'm all for a global chat for giving new players and experience players a place to mingle in game instead of a forum.

absolutely not the forums are already a cesspool as is

I vote yes.

Having a chat just gives you an instant hub to everyone else currently in the game. You can talk about the game, organize a team match, or just have some post game chat.

I would say yes to a global chat. You can always host a private server if you want to create a smaller community.

Oh no, there are terrible people on the internet. Better not implement a useful feature because a few people might misuse it. Better disable in-game chat too because terrible people might spew vulgarities in it. In fact, lets all just play single player, who knows what horrible things people might spell out with their buildings.

Please link me to all of these horrible posts that are corrupting our forum, I seriously can't find them... I don't see anything that would qualify this as a "cesspool". It seems fairly tame to me, especially compared to other game forums.

Well comments like that certainly don't improve peoples suspicions.

Really? Just a bit of sarcasm and you lose all faith in people? It's not like my post was riddled with vulgarity and insults...

Oh I pulled a Garat. I forgot to hit Post Reply. This was supposed to be after masterofroflness' post.
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But forum chatter isn't in real time. Which is very much not a chatroom. Believe it or not many players enjoy just opening the game and chatting with whoever is online.

If you don`t remember the steam release banana party or the numerous of other fights people get on the forums including how everyday there would be a new thread that says either the game sucks or the beta sucks then I guess it is a pretty tame forum.

So we shouldn't have chat rooms because a few people popped up on the forums one time and said some not nice things about the game? I don't understand how a simple ignore feature doesn't fix all of these concerns.

Because why would we implement a chat feature that already exists in better forms elsewhere?

And why would we implement a flawed chat system when this is the EXACT moment to try and fix the fundamental flaws in how it works?

Frankly the comments about how this will 'Create a community' I feel are completely unfounded when there exists a community without this chat.

People have had their competitions and clans, all without the supposed community life giving in game chat.

So frankly, what will a global chat ever have to offer that won't all be already completed by having a in-game web browser linked to the IRC chat?