Shammas' Competitive MNC Guide (11/18/13)

Discussion in 'Monday Night Combat 360 General Discussion' started by xshammas, November 19, 2013.

  1. motherfknskill

    motherfknskill Member

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    I think the majority of PM players would do just fine. You underestimate a lot of people dude
  2. mameyjelleds

    mameyjelleds New Member

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    I've never played a pm on G3 we should try it
  3. xshammas

    xshammas Well-Known Member

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    It wouldn't be any different than the current matches, just more unorganized chaos.
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    xshammas Well-Known Member

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  5. groundcontrol

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    To laggy a couple months back we started playing spunky again and it was always just non stop bitching about bouncers and lag. If we had a good host though I am sure people would want to play it.
  6. xshammas

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    I was being sarcastic, I think it's awful. But G3 would probably end up being awful if no one knows what they're doing.
  7. groundcontrol

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    I was being sarcastic. Now who feels like an idiot.
  8. xshammas

    xshammas Well-Known Member

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    Lol, that's exactly something that would happen though.
  9. motherfknskill

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    Grenade 3 with a jackbotted out PM lobby would be fun. not chaotic..
  10. xshammas

    xshammas Well-Known Member

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    Errbody should be reading this. Sticky this thread.
    Now with supplemental videos.
  11. purplescratchy

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    True it would be sloppy but sometimes sloppy is fun.
  12. teapot

    teapot Post Master General

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    I remember playing GIII with D:CK. Pretty sure we scrimmed destiny and it was pretty fun just because of how unusual it was for me. I remember thinking a good opening strategy would be to bomb jump across the map and into their base trying to distract them. I was wrong.
  13. purplescratchy

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    Only problem with this is, you make people narrow minded. You forget the main goal in the game is to get the ball down. Map control isn't MNC.
  14. xshammas

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    Map control is essential in any shooter, especially MNC. It's way easier to drop the ball with full control.
  15. purplescratchy

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    True. When I play gunner I try to help our assassin by killing theirs. This gives us bot control. In most PMs I can regain map control but in cereal PMs, it's harder to get map control back so I only focus on killing and map control. Since it's a cereal PM, most likely my team can kill the assassin while I focus on people.

    Edit: What do you use to record your gameplay?
    Last edited: November 25, 2013
  16. xshammas

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    I use an El Gato Game Capture HD and I use Xsplit to stream.
  17. RandomToon

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    Scratchy, the problem is it makes everyone else the target, and that is a bad thing. Killing the assassin that is spawn killing your bots is pointless if it means that your assault, tank, and firebase get killed and your support can only try to heal you because no one else is around. You killed one player, at the cost of 4.5 players. It is a bad trade. If you even think "not for me" then you are, in fact, hopeless.
  18. teapot

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    I planned on buying a cap card last night but had some things come up and never finished ordering it. I found out Apple stores carry El Gato cap card so I'm going to have my brother snag one tonight.
  19. xshammas

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    Yeah man, your brain must be shut off if you think that's a good play.
  20. teapot

    teapot Post Master General

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    I think a big component of winning in this game comes from understanding how to play selfless. I don't think there are many other popular FPS games that are able to teach that. You can let a kill go or essentially commit suicide and still have it work for your benefit. I'm not saying do it all the time, but you'll start picking up on various things, ESPECIALLY for bot players. I see some aren't exactly sure when to push, or how to push depending on who is alive/dead.

    You can tell who has certain mindsets in the game. It just shows through the gameplay.

    When Halo 3 was made free I hopped on and tried to get some good competitive games in. What I found was I going negative and not doing as well as I remembered, while having others who I definitely thought were worse than me finish with higher stats. The reason is because I was the only one who decided to play selflessly, and made an effort to be at the right locations at the right time, for the teams benefit. I'm at every rocket drop, every OS drop, only to find that nobody on my team cares, and I die in a mismatched situation. When others don't know the proper way to play competitively as a team, it completely prevents you guys from winning as a team. Camping sniper tower on pit in Halo 3 and going positive 4 doesn't help your team anymore than the guy who was negative 4 who was at every rocket and OS drop.

    To put that in MNC's terms, if you're an assault and finish 19-4 and lose, do you really think you did everything you could for your team? Let's say your gunner is 20-20 roughly and you lose. There could have obviously been other factors like the gunner's aim wasn't up to par etc, but mainly he's out there fighting for map control and you're more concerned with your stats than making the right play.

    I can try to explain playing selflessly better if you guys didn't follow. As far as the term "make plays" goes. It's a general term, and I know it's not going to make anyone else better. Feel free to ask specific questions if you're unsure on what we mean. I've heard it a few times in shammas' twitch about "making plays". I don't know how he'd handle it mid game, but just ask him what do to. It's worth listening to some criticism even if its not worded politely. I don't think many consider me be up on H&S's level, which is fine with me. Personally I think I'm close, but despite my skill level I always keep an open mind to constructive criticism from those who are better.
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