FPS how much do you consider playable and why?

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by lokiCML, November 7, 2013.

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Usable frames per second how much?

  1. 10 and below

    1 vote(s)
    4.0%
  2. 10 and aboye

    2 vote(s)
    8.0%
  3. 30 and below

    1 vote(s)
    4.0%
  4. 30 and aboye

    14 vote(s)
    56.0%
  5. 60 and below

    2 vote(s)
    8.0%
  6. 60 and above

    5 vote(s)
    20.0%
  7. 80 and below

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 80 and above

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. 100 and below

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 100 and above

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. lokiCML

    lokiCML Post Master General

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    Out of curiosity. Thought I would make this poll. Please explain your rationale behind your choice.
  2. cwarner7264

    cwarner7264 Moderator Alumni

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    I'd scrap this and try again. Do it in brackets of 10. The above wording is a bit ambiguous.

    "30 and below" means "0-30 FPS", which is quite a range ;)
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  3. maxpowerz

    maxpowerz Post Master General

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    I prefer FPS of 30+
    Its usually smooth and fluid.
    I try and aim for 60fps where i can as it gives the smoothest motion (especially in car racing games)
    anything above 60+fps is usually pointless in my opinion. i think the eye can only register aprox. 18fps anyways, and 60fps is the average sync rate of a mointor so any higher is just wasted unrendered frames.
    The only time i'd see 60+ fps being used is if your monitor refresh rate was higher than 60hz in example a 100hz monitor or tv.
  4. Culverin

    Culverin Post Master General

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    30+ = I'm not happy, but will still play a game. (assuming it's because my hardware too old).

    60 = I'm satisfied.


    That being said.
    I find the following much worse for my player experience:
    - Weird artifacts
    - screen tears
    - inconsistent controls (mouse acceleration)
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  5. nixtempestas

    nixtempestas Post Master General

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    brackets are a bit loose.

    For me it is 15-20 minimum (though with the last patch I usually get 20-30 on uber settings). The simple reason is I have terrible eyesight and can't tell the difference between 20 and 60 fps. Anything less than that starts becoming noticeable.
  6. Ortikon

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    20 is the lowest i would go. TV runs at 24 and nobody can tell. Digital tv is at 30 now-a days i believe.
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  8. arseface

    arseface Post Master General

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    10 and above.

    I played games for years at less than 10 fps so my eyes can pretty much handle anything, but I've gotten spoiled in the last couple years and raised my bar to 10.

    Not updating properly, like when there's a network issue though. That hurts. If it skips an update for 2+ seconds then it becomes painful.
  9. Ortikon

    Ortikon Active Member

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    whoa chill.
    Actually im ultra prone to migraines and over 50 and i can get sick.
    Below 20 is worse though. There is a medium.
  10. Ortikon

    Ortikon Active Member

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    I find i can see the refresh rate in the corner of my eyes though. Especially when I am using dual screen. If I focus on one screen the one off to the side appears to flash.
  11. slywynsam

    slywynsam Active Member

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    Amusingly right around 60 FPS is the most the human eye can actually discern as far as image 'smoothness'.
  12. bradaz85

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    I'm always chilled :)
    That doesn't sound healthy man, my friend's dad is like that but he has a tumor. I suffer from migraines on occasion too but they don't seem to be related to my monitor. Do you wear glasses or lenses? If so, maybe your using the wrong prescription... It seems like its easy for opticians to get it wrong nowadays.
  13. bradaz85

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    LOL, not true, its around 17 fps our brain cant tell the difference between frames and a video, and from there on-wards the more you increase the frames per second the more fluid the gameplay will look. Of course, some people have exceptions, and some people truly cant tell the difference between some frame rates.
  14. slywynsam

    slywynsam Active Member

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    The Human eye begins to stitch together frames about 30fps, which means that anything over that provides no benefit, but the actual movements will get smoother and smoother up until about 60FPS where after that you will not really see any benefit, even though the eye can 'see' much more than that.

    60FPS is the upper limit of actually being able to see improvement in the image.

    You can argue science all you want but it won't change. =p
  15. bradaz85

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    http://www.gamespot.com/videos/reality-check-do-we-need-60-fps-on-ps4-and-xbox-on/2300-6415658/

    LOL, just watch. I have more material if you need it but with this one it has a 60 fps vid player. That will teach you to do research on frame rates using youtube. ;)
  16. Ortikon

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    Just got my eyes checked last week actually, including a macular nerve degeneration test.
    It is very common for people to recognize refresh rates in the corner of their eyes because the outer edges are more sensitive (guess it was a threat awareness thing). Basicly if I look away from the screen but maintain awareness of it, i can see the tearing roll up the screen more easily. Finally got glasses for distance only last week, been living without them since. Noticed a drop in the migraines. I can usually tolerate lower frame rates because I work in a frame by frame environment where image sequences have dropped frames etc so i have to scan through stuff and make sure its all working right. If my pc's frame rate drops but a game is still running in proportionate real time I can ignore the jumping. Network lag and I lose my mind though.
  17. slywynsam

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    I'm not going to continue this if you wanna act like that. =p

    And fyi I didn't use youtube.
  18. bradaz85

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    LOL :) act like what sir? I think you have mis-interpreted me somewhere, either that or you have just realized you are pretty much wrong. :)
  19. slywynsam

    slywynsam Active Member

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    Unfortunately no. =p

    This is something I've had to do research on before.

    You can believe whatever you like though.
  20. bradaz85

    bradaz85 Active Member

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    Yes I think you have just conditioned yourself to tolerate such frame rate dude. It would seem like your peripheral vision is quite good then, some peoples are great and some peoples aren't.

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