Beta is childsplay compared to alpha

Some of us old guys have a hard time keeping up with the Micro. My fingers do not respond as quick as my brain does.

Game is fine and going in the right direction. All that needed now is mass to be concentrated, rather then all over the place. Patch here, a patch there, and so on. For those that think 'skill' is apm, no..it's not. This is meant to be a strategy game, strategy is long term thinking. You can still harrass, but it will be with purpose now, you'll fight over mass depots.

The pace is actually more like TA then it was previously, previously it was more, more, MORE, and that's not a strategy.

I don't understand the complaints though, you can still build massive amounts of factorys, you just got to get out there and defend those mass points first, hell..you don't even have to do that, hold on to enough, build a transport, and fly to another planet.

You got to understand also, that when you are fiddling between planets, playing on both, apm will come in handy. All the reduction of mass has done is slow the start up time, that's it.

Cyber, the micro is the exact same in both large and small games.

In fact you open up even more complex micro abilities and flanking moves with more units on the field.

Having a smaller slower growing game doesn't change the micro.

To change micro the unit interaction needs to change

I can raid a lot more easily with bots and planes now at the start of the game than I could before. The early game is a lot more micro intensive meaning denials do a lot more damage and it plays a lot aggressively. You're right it has no bearing on micro purely, but it does change the rate of how your management affects victory. I like early game strategies, and I don't want to revert to the alpha where killing some of your metal in a part of the map "didn't matter" in the grand scheme of things.

The early game is less micro intensive imho things are way way slower. Your able to accomplish more damage not because its more micro intensive but because you can focus on that micro while not having to worry about falling behind in the economy department since its so sparce

I disagree; you can't macro a swarm to stop raiding like you could before with the massive swarm of starting mexes; you now have to react a lot more intelligently to early raids. It also takes a lot more investment to protect outer territory; you can't spam circular swarm to stop it all.

Not trying to be rude but this isn't an argument for game balance. There are plenty out there better than me and I really don't want an artificial skill cap to keep them in line

It wasn't an argument for game balance at all. It was more aimed and the higher apm equals higher skill/strategy debate.

20-30 is highly slow though. I agree 300 is too much. I think about 60-100 should be a suitable level.

Bad joke goes *shwoosh*

apm doesn't mean **** if you win with lower apm

Very much this.

Offensive? How is anyone offensive?

Making a blanket statement that casual players like large games and competitive like small games is a pretty bold statement. I would have said the exact opposite.

Whatever the case may be – PA was intended to be a large scale macro game from the very beginning as stated in the original Kickstarter video.

I took the bold statement as offensive. Maybe it's not so, but it's perspective. I don't believe I have the right to not be offended. I was just mentioning how I saw it.

Hm... I suppose I can see that...

I apologize if there was any misconception. It wasn't directed at you in any way.

Lets hope next patch has sliders and the ability to make it more like alpha style, maybe just a **** hair slower to please those willing to compromise. I know I won't be playing any ladder games or tournies till then.

There isn't even a ladder.......its just a lobby.

You haven't heard of the gentlemens ladder? Someone educate this man!

There is an unofficial, player-hosted ladder igncom1.

I don't see why anyone thinks there is a connection between the number of units in a game and the 'amount of strategy'.