A question about fairness

I dont understand what you mean by "fair". Anyone is free to buy it or not. So why should it be unfair to anyone?

What he means by "fair" is that he has a very strange sense of entitlement. Games should never cost more than $40 regardless don'tcahknow?

If you read the comments on the DEVS post on the Steamforum you would come to this:

It's fair to support someone and pay for that
It's fair to see something before someone else and pay for that more
It's fair to get more then others the more you pay
It's not fair that someone gets the same as you did by paying less
It's not fair saying everything is running well while it's not finished
and and and ... (that's what I understand from the ppl posting there)

There are too many aspects to say if something like that is fair or not. What would be your answer? "It's fair because I gave my money to support them even if someone gets the same as I did". Do you think the ppl on the Steamforum would give you a pleasant answer like "You did well"?

Anyway there will be no right answer and I got mine allready. If someone has to say something about this you can write your opinion here.

(By the way, I was also thinking too much like a marketer to come to such a question *hit myself* )

There is most definitely a right answer. The Devs have done nothing that constitutes "unfair".

I think you missed my *rolls eyes* smiley, which should indicate to you extreme levels of sarcasm.

My answer to is it fair?
Sure it's fair, we get to participate early and are able to support development with as much money as we can give.
It's an honor to pay for PA's development

I don't feel thinking in terms of "fairness" leads anywhere in this case. Fair or not fair just has no meaning when you are free to buy or not to buy. We are talking about a luxury plaything here, not about a basic necessity.

it IS a troll thread. you get the alpha commander... jesus christ.. when the game comes out people will be drooling over your commander and you'll get to be like : "HA-HA! suck it!"

other than that it's not only reporting bugs, it's molding, or fashioning the game with your own hands. Your participation here shapes the final product.
And no we will not waste our time and go see what's happening on that atrocious joke of a Pa section steam forum has.

I don't think a lot of you are understanding at what he trying to get out. He was basically saying that between Alpha, Beta and the $40 Pre-Order the only real difference is the Alpha access, Beta access or full game. The extras that come with these three packages are basically the exact same.

and then the people that understand that don't understand that there is a difference between participating in the alpha or beta or just starting on release that's definitely worth paying for.

Some people think Alphas and Betas don't need a price tag. Some people are jaded to what a proper Alpha and Beta are. That doesn't make anyone right or wrong though.

If that's true.... Why are so many people complaining about the sudden and unexpected drop in Alpha price? ;P

You must be new around these parts, compared to when PA went live on Steam Early Access there have been very few 'complaints' regarding the price drop. Off hand I can only recall about 3-5 threads and they were much less caustic compared to the threads created by the entitled people coming over from Steam.

Mike

And that is definitely an opinion. The OP is clearly not trolling. Please don't accuse him of such. You can disagree of course, and we're pleased you do, but it doesn't make his opinion any less valid.

Because they are "Johnny Come Lately's", who haven't done any research, and even if they had, would still be complaining.

Ehm Alpha Commander ??? Did I miss something? Explain pls

About that "No we will not waste our time and go see what's happening on that .... steam forum". I think the DEVS are interested what's going on there because a mass of voices is a promo too you know. The mass makes the success and can secure the future of the company. If it starts bad it can influence other ppl or a buyers decision. Take a look at FUNCOM when they released "Age of Conan" ... they made a lot of ppl angry and do you think those ppl would buy a game from them ever again?

By the way, how do you mean to " molding, or fashioning the game with your own hands". We are the consumer not the developer. The only thing we can do is reporting bugs and give some suggestions, not? The rest is up to the DEVS and how they wish to bring this game forward.

Thx Garat for saying this post isn't a Trollingpost. I appreciate it and thank you for your constructive answers.

So much people got pranked by the EA. They paid paid up to $300 for games listed here:
https://www.humblebundle.com/
And I bought them for $4! Is it fair?

perfect point. the fact that the difference is that you're paying before it's in its final state isn't that relevant (no sarcasm).

no, i'm not. I remember all the fuss being made over on the steam forums, and a few over here.

I am a firm believer that giving money to EA is a cardinal sin of gaming, so no, it isn't fair. For you.

It's actually money for charity. But to be fair It's just an example, I'm never pay for any non-crossplatform bundles.

It's not change the fact, that 99% of games going cheaper over time, and usually you can buy AAA game for 50-60% of release price just after 3-6 months. And many of these games are unfinished/buggy at release, so people who pay less always get game in more finished state.

I disagree

Here the OP :

Sorry but this is trolling.
an half-truth + a vague and polemic question.

Nobody point a gun on your head forcing you to buy the alpha access. Nothing was hidden, you knew what you would got for 90$. So the answer is obviously, YES it is fair.
You are the only judge for spending your money. The fact, that you cannot justify it, is not my problem. If you bought the game on a whim and you have regrets... is neither my problem.