The Politics Thread (PLAY NICELY!)

I'm not saying I care, I'm even glad, but this link's busted. Probably like the crummy propaganda it was originally anyway.

It's like Elodea talks German army and Gorbles talks... American army??? ...I think if there was a power successfully able to take over the world at any point in history if they wanted to, it'd be America 1946. Nuke every single capital. Land troops everywhere. Promise another nuke every week, if they don't fully annex with America.

Know why they didn't? Because the US was satisfied with liberty, in leau of conquest, in the 1950s. Not even sure if that's the case anymore, but everyone thinks everyone else is a conquistador and they might want to take a step back and recalculate the entire situation leading up to now, instead of "laughing at 3 post-" *tatsu posts 1 more* "...4 POSTS straight worth of dank Trump memes"...

^but when I'm edgy and can use paintdotnet, I'm "an out of control x-ist." They're edgy and can use MSPaint, and they're a ******* liberal arts major all of a sudden. It's memes, it's not a revolution, it's not some form of majority vote, never confuse it as such.

It was a typo and a scrubby social media site that otherwise nobody but Trump and celebrities care about anyway. Calm down, it's not even that funny, he uses a cell phone to type this ****, there were memes about cell phone sabotaging your typing WAY BEFORE Trump ran for office the FIRST time.

Yeah the covfefe thing isn't very Trump specific. Even in an alternate reality with a President Bernie Sanders we could've made fun of it.

Yet, targeted at the operator, or the device? I daresay it would be different target.

So what's the issue then? And for clarification's sake : yes I would've posted/laughed similarly at anyone making the blunder.

Wait are we debating whether or not this is a comedic goldmine? I'm sorry but the ... no not the.... EVERYTHING literally everything speaks for it. Is the above meme fire? I still think so. I can't believe how lucky the guy who drew the parallel first is. It's so self evident once you've seen it.


Meanwhile in a land where the media totally isn't I swear Macron's bitchh

fixed link for fun's sake. I can see why this type of video may be flagged. It doesn't have much to do with authenticity I mean FFS when there's no commentary and it's original footage it's a draw-your-own-conclusions kinda deal.

Those Macron's pictures remind me about Nigel Farage awesome pics in the media and how easy is to see who media support by just that.
Why bothering on explaining stuff when you can just draw horns or halos over pictures.

It is, but it detracts from more important issues.


Your Macron image doesn't show for me. The host wants me to do a captcha when I visit it directly. I am too lazy for that.

EDIT: Ok... but is it THAT unthinkable that the press is all over reporting stuff about your new President? I mean there might be some merit to your assumptions, but still, the press reporting on things about the newly elected President of your country seems not too unreasonable.

It's definitely less funny, more targeted. If this were anyone else, it'd be 99% less funny. Sans Trump, the only other target that more than your personal friends and family would relate to as "funny", would in fact be the shoddy autocorrect on the phone itself, or old people in general using electronics, mind you the second one is "ist" against old people. On that note, how old is Trump again? How about Hillary? How many cellphones did Hillary use in correspondence to her personal server that she literally misplaced and forgot where?

Old people... pssh. I mean, senior citizen's moments, amirite?

If it were "that funny", my many "mistypes" would be international meme fire trending at 20 million google clicks right now. They aren't, because it isn't. You're humor is "fidget spinner" or "ice bucket challenge" level, fueled by internet randy's cyclical arsegrab of viral trending topics. You're just another hand in the arse-frenzy, and another number on Google Trending.

How?

no really how is this technically feasible?
for argument's sake with the pokemon fusion meme?

Just in case I want to be the one to personally teach you this :

It's only fair if america has a big army. if europe does it, it's evil. If america murders millions of natives in death camps, it's fine. If america puts citizens of japanese descent in concentration camps without trial, it's fine.

It's only evil when germany does it. it's only evil when the nazis murder innocent citizens. When america does it, it's for the greater good, it's because they had no choice. It's only evil when russia overthrows sovereign, democratically elected governments. When the US does it, it's justified.

Get your head out of your ***.

I knew that comment was coming.

that is within the same week it was identical during the campaign and there's NOTHING ELSE in published news to read at what point is it even ALLOWED to consider there's a bias?

Well sure there is a bias in the media to report on certain things. By default on things that sell the most copies.
Your country just got a rather unusual new President. From underdog to "crushed the established political order" within a few years. I don't find it very surprising the media is all over that.
Yes it may also be because of some more or less direct control of the media to be Macron friendly. But that is the more convoluted theory. "They do that because they think it will sell many copies" is the easier explanation. Occam's razor.

This does not say your hypothesis is falsified ofc. But so far there are many ways to explain this. If this continues way beyond a point where people are bored of reading about Macron your explanation will get more likelihood points. But for now it is just the media being mostly stupid and narrow minded in their decision on what to report. Nothing really new.

I can't tell from the small french images of news papers: How positive on average is the reporting? That would be a much more interesting indicator for your hypothesis.

While there are surely more factors, it's mostly money interest yes. Extreme news sells more (although newspapers have been seeing declining sales for more than a decade now).

Macron is simply an unusual president, he does unusual things (forming a party pretty much from scratch that's far more centrist). Same goes for Trump, but in different ways.

Freedom of the press in the west is still infinitely better than in the rest of the world (in russia it's all state controlled for instance, directly or indirectly). It's somewhat on the decline due to monetary issues (social media and internet is destroying revenue), but it's still better than the rest.

unilaterally I should have said that at first but it seemed self-evident to me. french are no stranger to the game of picking favorable or disfavorable pictures.

you only have one end so here :


do any of the covers look like that?

it's funny because macron is WAAAY more often making THIS face then the one on ALL those covers.

how is that unusual? plus that is factually incorrect.

I already explained this : Bayrou did exactly this : form the MO-DEM, the center party which macron basically took ahold of which again is nothing new in light of Mélenchon for example taking ahold of the communist party and changing it's direction altogether. (also Macron isn't center. that's another bit of propaganda propagated by the international media but everyone in france is not getting fooled by "macron centre" it's "macron droite" everyone knows it)

get your facts straight.

everything you might need to know is here:
https://forums.uberent.com/threads/the-politics-thread-play-nicely.70907/page-140#post-1139859
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https://forums.uberent.com/threads/the-politics-thread-play-nicely.70907/page-141#post-1139860
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https://forums.uberent.com/threads/the-politics-thread-play-nicely.70907/page-148#post-1140348
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https://forums.uberent.com/threads/the-politics-thread-play-nicely.70907/page-150#post-1140511
and here:
https://forums.uberent.com/threads/the-politics-thread-play-nicely.70907/page-150#post-1140512

I'd pay for Merkel to more often make faces like that.

...I'm guessing here you're saying you're tired of seeing that one face she makes.

she's strategical about that. at least the media have nothing to latch onto in those terms.

here we have plenty of source material to work from but none of it ends up in the published or majority press.

if it weren't for the benefactor Edwy Plenel creating Meadiapart we'd be relying solely on youtubers for any sort of outcry at (as an example amongst plenty... ) the state of news ownership and all of said news owners being neck deep in bed with the current president... how his arrival to power is no real surprise and how it was strategically ordained years in advance... the shady affairs and fiscal fraud... how those in power are guilty of theft money laundering and money drain ect.

I find your seeming attitude towards all this hard to swallow, is that really what you believe? that french media aren't Macron's bitchh?

Now many outlets released their take on this and there are actual news outlets on this so you know... pick your poison.

but really there's no real way so spin this one way or another and I just find comedy central's take hilarious have a gander :


and this is the skit before he knew what the 'infrastructure week' was a diversion for but even without that knowledge still put things into perspective :

you know what? let's dig a bit deeper into this topic what is your preferred outlet? I'm grasping at straws here to find one supportive of trump right about now :

She indeed is and I am generally tired of her. I was 13 when she took office. Now I am 25. If she manages to win the upcoming election I will reach the point where I can legitimately claim that she has been our chancellor for over half my life.

I don't see what is so bad about that image though. It looks like he is talking about something he really cares about. Not necessarily a negative thing.

I have zero contact with the french media, your info posts about it are interesting, but you're still only a single person on the internet writing things.
I give you more credit in terms of reliability than I would give a random poster, but your claims just go too far, so I am pretty critical of them. Especially since they're not reflected in any of sources I can understand. You are the only person I am aware of to say these things within my own little filter bubble of "I don't speak french".
The french media is conspiring to make Macron your evil overlord? Yeah..., I am not gonna buy into that unless you have actual solid proof. All you have is hints. Yes they don't make the situation look too good. But so far I can explain all of them using much less conspiracies than you do.

@cola_colin it's really not things you can't verify yourself via a little googling. I don't understand your course of action and I wish you'd just explain it to me : you'd rather lump heaps and heaps of personal discredit that you yourself are outputting onto me rather then do the following :

"who's the owner of so and so news?" ...wait I don't know what news names to google for.

"list of french media outlets"

"owner of such and such news"

"so and so ties to macron"

so on so forth.

why