The Politics Thread (PLAY NICELY!)

Discussion in 'Unrelated Discussion' started by stuart98, November 11, 2015.

  1. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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  2. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    Is the dive into the uncanny valley intentional with those figures?
  3. tatsujb

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    does it really matter for the point?
    https://forums.uberent.com/threads/the-politics-thread-play-nicely.70907/page-142#post-1139943
    https://forums.uberent.com/threads/the-politics-thread-play-nicely.70907/page-142#post-1139934
    https://forums.uberent.com/threads/the-politics-thread-play-nicely.70907/page-146#post-1140194
    and la pièce de résistance
    https://forums.uberent.com/threads/the-politics-thread-play-nicely.70907/page-142#post-1139960
    by his own admission :
    he did vote Gary Johnson before during DNC but come finals he did what he though was best.

    EDIT : actually come to think of it maybe he was referencing either. it's not clear. go metaphors. did googling on iran's shooting of candidates but didn't find such instances so that didn't help.

    either way colin that's it.
    You've emptied my motivation to dig. I've spent countless hours digging this up and the information from the information on macron I can't even tell you how long. I'm actually mid-school term. I'm doing fine but not getting lots of sleep thanks to you.

    this is it. fuckk doing all your homework. from now on I'm not doing any more digging for you.

    more than
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  4. thetrophysystem

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    It was Sanders before DNC, and Johnson for election, if for nothing else than to give them access to the ballot in all 50 states come next election. I defended Trump as a chaotic neutral to Hillary's lawful evil, I'm not glad he won but I'm quite glad Hillary didn't, in an ideal world they BOTH would have lost (and Johnson would have won, we could have started balancing budget and scaling back oppressive enforced government mandates). I didn't think that was even argument, that is almost absolute fact. I don't even have a problem saying it, with this french election nonsense, you know exactly what I'm saying because you're bitching about it's french incarnate right this very now.

    For instance, Trump did some pursuits to reduce central government. I even considered the chance that he'd legalize marijuana federally and let states decide. He did a lot of talking to that ends. However, it seems his attorney general does not agree, which means it's probably not going to happen. However, if it did happen, that'd make him as worth his weight, as Obama was for taking credit for the SCOTUS ruling to include sexual orientation into civil rights. Neither were the best presidents, but if Trump wants to even have a legacy, he has to do something mould-breaking, something not strictly for the benefit of some company or political agenda.

    Were I him, rich and influencial, there'd be no further monetary risk to just have my own opinion, damned be the politicians who oppose common sense legislation. I'd make some reform bills for real healthcare, for deregulating marijuana, and when it didn't pass, my message would be clear: The bills exist, we can write them, and to become law, citizens merely need to wipe the board with congress, and replace them with candidates willing to pass really good ******* laws.

    It's what we need, but it's far from what's on the plate.
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  5. tatsujb

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    Yeah, sorry @tatsujb. I appreciate (and have read some good bits on Twitter from French folk) about how this is not as clear-cut as international media is making it out, but I will always pick a capitalist <expletive> over a neo-Nazi <expletive>.

    Reasons to not kill each other are entirely based on culture. Christian culture informs a lot of Western upbringing and indeed actual written law is based on, well, the Ten Commandments.

    You can't divorce culture and reason when you want to. They're linked, and always will be.
  7. tatsujb

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    thanks yeah.
    so will I. I just can't find the will in me to do the "piking" :(
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  8. tatsujb

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    i'm not going there.

    if this is a historic high for abstention in france then I'm not surprised. In effect it'll be a good thing : we can use that metric to legitimize a revolution movement.
  9. tatsujb

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    wtf are you talking about. what is going to vote in the first round then? "i don't even try" ???!
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    in laughter lies salvation


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  11. cola_colin

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    you realize that the shady capitalist is better than the open racist, yet you intend to put your head in the sand and hope the world will end somehow ;)
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  12. tatsujb

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    is "preparing for a revolution" sticking my head in the sand?

    I don't understand you
  13. cola_colin

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    Fair point.

    In that case please stick your head in the sand, ignore Macrons downsides and support him.

    I like France and I don't want it to go up in flames.

    "It'll so all go up in Flames" is sort of funny in a dark way when it happens on another continent.

    But you're basically my neighbor, please stop playing with fire.
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  16. tatsujb

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    so french have a tendency to be literate and like play on words and such. Guessing from your reply you only read the title. that makes you look a bit foolish because that article is totally opposite to what you describe : /

    how could you really think that's what it is? who calls for a coup in a five-page manifesto? xD
  17. cola_colin

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    You again underestimate the pain in the *** it is to read a text translated by google.
    Here have a go at the first paragraph, translated to German and then back to french.

    I hope it reads as painful as the German version.

    Fancy plays on words are no good when you're trying to talk to a person who is depending on a rather stupid machine to make sense of your words.
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  18. gmase

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    Who keeps posting long french texts (or link to them) in an international forum and expects people to read them completely?
    Is there more to read here?

    The fool here is you my friend.
  19. thetrophysystem

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    Depends. You can elect an administrator, and then completely shut down his effective power. We've proven this with Trump. A shady capitalist, gets things done under tables, there is no "vote" on it and nobody to "disagree". Just look at the history of Hawaii's statehood.
    Uncool, but jokes on you, the rest of the world is standing more on their own feet than any other time in the last century, but a massive fire one place, particularly the highest gdp in the world, is going to devastate us, but suck for you too. At least it'll be interesting to see, what happens when socialism meets an infrastructure incapable of 100% funding it's socialism. Socialism is a great model until then, but if you think politics is shaky now, just watch what happens when people panic over available resources. Sunshine supporters, the second rationing happens, socialism will hemorrhage supporters.
  20. cola_colin

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    Hold your horses. First Trump sure is also a shady capitalist and second you've not even survived the first year of Trump yet. Out of 4.

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