The Politics Thread (PLAY NICELY!)

Thought I already rebutted the mexico rapists thing.

Anyway, something more lighthearted

Trump going to Washington

No I rebutted your interpretation of it.

That gif sure is well made.

I just want to point out that he did, and you tried to rationalize your bullshit. Trump did not say all Mexicans are racists, and we should deport those that broke our laws and entered our country without due process.

@Europe: That's a nice circlejerk you have there.

We're in the top 26 (ish?) of least shootings per nation. Need to find that source again. Anyway, we have shootings, so does Germany, Germany doesn't have 1 every week, Germany also doesn't share a large land border with countries that operate an armed cartel. We'd trade our guns, if you'd fund us for a wall and enforcement to keep more guns from coming in, then we could be more like Europe. Again, I'd take being annexed by the EU and being assigned a prime minister, over Hillary anyday. She wants to abolish guns, except the ones the police use to harass the poor class, and the ones her personal guards get.

The EU operates dandy, unfortunately voting "democrat" here does nothing that even remotely resembles anything vaguely familiar to the EU government.

EDIT: Also, arbitrary land mass and population differences. Per-population, our shootings would not be comparable to any EU country, it would be comparable for pretty much the rest of the developed western world's statistics put together. I stretch it to say, Germany doesn't hear about Japan's double-homicides, and Japan doesn't hear about Germany's. These are all factors to take into consideration when "condemning" a nation's shootings as "too high".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34996604

literally explaining this whole thing to a child would be easier.

You guys are so deep in your prejudice you're bleeding freudian slips out of every orifice.

Does it ever happen to you to realize and have to admit you may have been wrong?

my guess (seeing as how you're not picking up on any of your own warning flags) is that that has never happened to you before in your lifetime.

I'm not dissing the US, not at all. You know If I would inherit some millions and a real estate company I think I rather live in the US in fact. I really don't care about your gunviolence as well, just seem rather uncivilized/messy. It's the whole I only care for myself /my own (country,people) thing I don't like. I get you don't like to pay for taxes, nobody does. But if it pays for good infrastructure, education and healthcare how can you be so against it. Companies, weather they don't stop at borders so really don't get this nationalism thing at all.

Anyway some fun: New language on Wikipedia (Trump English)
https://www.canvas.be/video/de-ideale-wereld/najaar-2016/dinsdag-15-november-2016/trump-english

cool chart, but it's not going to be affected if the second amendment is changed.

Incidentally I watched the clip over the weekend sometime. He did not say all Mexicans were rapists.

He said all Mexicans coming into America were rapists (or criminals of some other specification that I can't remember word for word). The difference is a technicality, the intended meaning for Americans living in America worried about Mexicans is the same.

Your technicality is pointless. It doesn't change anything. For all intents and purposes, that is what the now-President Elect of the United States said. On camera.

Wow so many crimes in us! Those Mexican immigrants must be really bad.

/s

Mr Trump's custom Airforce 1 is completed

Woops. Meant to say rapists. Lol.
Also what? You must be tripping again.

Isn't that the new concept ship for Star Citizen? Coincident? I think not!

It's not gold enough, and it doesn't have his name on the side, so it's obviously a fake!

I'd RATHER us be annexed with force by the EU and assigned a Prime Minister, than work with our current liberal party at arms, the democrats. You have various reasons in this thread as to why. They are not cost-effective, they are not truly supportive of everyone's equality, and they are quite hostile and sh*t-flinging.

The conservatives are many the same things, but we are talking about the liberals right now. I personally voted for neither.

It's Wikipedia. So. Yeah.

Ideally you should vote for the best candidate your conscience allows you to. If that isn't the Democrats, then fair enough. But be prepared to be criticised for what your vote allowed (i.e. if you truly consider Trump and the GOP platform worse, but didn't vote against them, then it could be argued that you didn't vote in a manner aligned with that opinion).

"they're both just as bad" is an argument I'm real tired of hearing. Fascism is pretty real, and it's been a literal week since the election.

I did vote, for Gary Johnson, because he was the best candidate on the ballot. Everyone else's garbage, is overrated, and not for me, thanks but no thanks. Reasons stated above.

I also don't see how it's fascist to arrest someone for a gun-based threat. You're allowed to own them, not suggest shooting human beings with them, that's illegal most everywhere.

I also don't see how "getting election results but begging people to discard them to elect your candidate anyway" fails to be consisted fascist.

This is one of the biggest lies being force fed to young kids now a days. A shameful political perversion of Burke's great quote.

That meme couldn't logic itself out of a paper bag. Do you really think anyone is walking around thinking they aren't a good person? It's not about good or bad, it's about what you want to do to others. A catholic thinks they are a good person for not using birth control, but should they vote to pass a law that criminalizes it?

It's 100% the other way around. By not voting, you have every right to complain. It's the people who vote who have no right to complain because they agreed to the rules of the game, namely liberal democracy.

The world needs Carlin now more than ever.


Stop trying to guilt trip people, it's both predictable and unseemly. Democrat or Republican, first the losers blame third party voters who said "**** you I'm going to die on this hill with my principles", and then they turn to blaming people who didn't vote. Never do they look in the mirror.

Sadly, that office isn't too powerful. Congress is usually the problem office, and it has no term limit.

Also, that's why I vote libertarian. I'd vote straight down the line against the incumbent unless I knew for a fact they'd done good in office. You need to cycle out blood more frequently in office. Otherwise, you have lobbyists with a decades-old bind influencing a politician's every choice, usually for a rich guy's request, like locking the market on pharmaceuticals, or prosecuting poor people some more so you have more tax money directed to a prison system contracted or owned by private corporation.

Those are problems. I agree having no opinion doesn't give politicians the right to **** life up for you, that's entirely on them, not the non-voter. It's just as much a form of slavery as any describes. I just choose to have opinions for said problems, and a perceived idea that I feel would alleviate it. Like less prosecutions when unnecessary to do so, for BOTH big party's numerous targets, and less politics dictated by lobbyists.