This has been a long time coming.

Discussion in 'Unrelated Discussion' started by tatsujb, March 30, 2016.

  1. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

    Messages:
    12,902
    Likes Received:
    5,385
  2. maxpowerz

    maxpowerz Post Master General

    Messages:
    2,208
    Likes Received:
    885
    So it's sorta like some kinda embedded cygwin?
    hopefully it has Git support out of the box...
    dom314 likes this.
  3. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

    Messages:
    12,074
    Likes Received:
    16,221
    I checked the date twice to verify that we do not have the 1st april already.
    And it's fact: There is no timezone that far ahead. I just watched a livestream from some Microsoft-event somewhere where they were just showing it off. They used apt to install gcc, wrote a simple hello world in C in vi, compiled it with gcc to a linux 64 bit binary and it just worked.
    If this is real and works the way they make it look like I'll update to Windows 10 and just setup my whole developer-stuff they way I'd do on a linux machine, while running windows.

    This is the kind of new feature that I do upgrade my OS for, as far as I am concerned this combines the superior developer-stuff of linux with the superior entertainment stuff of windows. Perfect for my single home-machine that happens to have the need to be good at both these things.

    Max from what I understand to get git on that you'd do something like:
    apt-get install git
    say Y and there you go: Use git.

    More detailed info from an ubuntu dev who is involved: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html
    Last edited: March 31, 2016
    elodea, tatsujb, dom314 and 2 others like this.
  4. maxpowerz

    maxpowerz Post Master General

    Messages:
    2,208
    Likes Received:
    885
    How do you have your pc setup now..
    Do you use GRUB and have a dual boot system with linux and windows?
  5. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

    Messages:
    12,074
    Likes Received:
    16,221
    It's running Windows 7 and I just have to accept the issues that come with it. I am just too lazy for dualboot xD I tried to completely replace Windows with Ubuntu before, but stuff like games just are a letdown with ubuntu. On other systems I have that I only ever use to work I run (x)ubuntu.

    "type bash here for an ubuntu inside windows" is exactly the kind of lazyness-support I'd like to see.
    tatsujb, stuart98 and maxpowerz like this.
  6. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

    Messages:
    12,902
    Likes Received:
    5,385
  7. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

    Messages:
    12,074
    Likes Received:
    16,221
    I must admit my initial flash of "wow" has been replaced with the realization that I would have to install Windows 10 to get this.

    ... urg. I'll have a look at it again in a few years when I leave 7. Maybe.
    elodea likes this.
  8. killerkiwijuice

    killerkiwijuice Post Master General

    Messages:
    3,879
    Likes Received:
    3,597
    So it's basically just a 1000x more complex command line?
  9. Devak

    Devak Post Master General

    Messages:
    1,713
    Likes Received:
    1,080
    I don't understand the big deal.

    Can someone explain why this is a big deal?
  10. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

    Messages:
    6,946
    Likes Received:
    6,820
    Tatsu performed a level 5 thread necromany.
  11. maxpowerz

    maxpowerz Post Master General

    Messages:
    2,208
    Likes Received:
    885
    It's not a thread necro if the OP brings it back to life..
    tatsujb likes this.
  12. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

    Messages:
    12,074
    Likes Received:
    16,221
    Well imagine a Windows that can run anything that also runs on linux as well. You just open a "linux" command line shell on windows and in there you can do anything you could do on a real linux box. Directly install any linux software. Compile software for linux, etc. The ultimate combination of linux and windows, the best of both worlds.
    Now in practice I am sure it at least for now has a bunch of issues, but the concept certainly is very appealing if you happen to be part of the group of people who:
    a) privately grew up with Windows
    b) professionally realized a long time ago that linux is a really cool platform to develop software on.

    Yeah I would not call it really necromancy, tatsu added new info on the topic.
  13. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

    Messages:
    12,902
    Likes Received:
    5,385
    it's just the opposite makes a world more sense to me. windows needs to be accounted for; it's irresponsible. and running it sandboxed will accomplish just that.

    gimme a weeksor so and I should finally be on my hardware passthrough rig and I'll post here with the results.
  14. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

    Messages:
    12,902
    Likes Received:
    5,385
    in the spirit of giving good information : 1000 times less complex is more accurate.

    + 1000x more potent
    killerkiwijuice likes this.
  15. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

    Messages:
    12,902
    Likes Received:
    5,385
  16. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

    Messages:
    6,946
    Likes Received:
    6,820
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke
  17. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

    Messages:
    12,074
    Likes Received:
    16,221
    That's a concept I never heard of before. Quite interesting. Do you often engage in such behavior?
    Geers likes this.
  18. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

    Messages:
    6,946
    Likes Received:
    6,820
    Yes I do Lieutenant Commander Data.
  19. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

    Messages:
    7,971
    Likes Received:
    4,357
    I'm installing Windows 10 over the fact all future Microsoft titles will be available on the Windows Xbox store thingy- Even if bought for the Xbox One originally. So games I own on the one can be played on PC. Which is pretty sweet.

    But I'm just going to buy a separate hard drive dedicated to it. Hot swap them out whenever I feel it.

    I'd say you could do something similar @cola_colin but maybe it wouldn't be as reasonable. :p
  20. elodea

    elodea Post Master General

    Messages:
    1,694
    Likes Received:
    3,040
    Anyone know how Microsoft is producing revenue to cover development costs?

    Anything that gets offered for free as part of a business plan always raises pretty large red flags for me...

Share This Page