The Politics Thread (PLAY NICELY!)

Discussion in 'Unrelated Discussion' started by stuart98, November 11, 2015.

  1. Devak

    Devak Post Master General

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    You already get shot if you have your hands up in the air and are on the ground. Don't think the police can hit a lower low than that.

    I wonder if the cop walks away a free man. Precedence says he will. Nothing will change. Not until cops are no longer above the law, as they currently seem to be.
  2. killerkiwijuice

    killerkiwijuice Post Master General

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    wtf? LOL

    since when?
  3. tatsujb

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    since when was a black man shot after getting on the ground and getting his hands up in the air?
    since july 21st 2016.

    was that the question?
  4. killerkiwijuice

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    ah yes one of the cases with the terrible cop. he should be in prison

    99.9% of cops are good

    the 0.1% gets the news

    so predictable
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  5. killerkiwijuice

    killerkiwijuice Post Master General

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  6. tatsujb

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    same website was used to have trump prosecuted for incitement of violence at his rallies.

    nothing ever comes out of that site

    but it brings me to tears to see the america that was fought so hard for revert to an anterior state with these sorts of claims.

    it was a long hard road to get rid of segregation and this is how you repay it?
    you know you just pulled those numbers out of your asss right ?

    again with the denial of the issue.



    get to the end see how vicious FOX is in their denial of a police-race problem
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    and especially this :
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/31/the-counted-police-killings-2015-young-black-men

    you've gotta be fukin kidding me if you think i'm buying 0.1% of police did this.

    that a really hyperactive 0.1% that the 99.9 other percent is actually a part of for not firering
  7. squishypon3

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    You guys are kind of leaving a bit of context out of this. The US most definitely does have a lot more killings performed by cops than other major countries- That's for sure. But you have to remember we also have arguably more crime too. Due to relatively lax gun laws and the banning of drugs creating a huge drug trade also bringing us the highest homicide rate. We've got high incarceration due to minor crimes being pushed too far into prison. And etc.

    I can't say that the number of killings in the US aren't really crazy high comparitively. But I just have to point out the impact so much organized crime seems to cause these issues. Similar to the mob during prohibition.
  8. killerkiwijuice

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    "unarmed"

    i suggest you read this entirely
    https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-danger-of-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    She has analyzed many statistics regarding police shootings
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  9. Devak

    Devak Post Master General

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    Yes, unarmed.

    The police isn't exactly sending the message that black lives matter.

    Besides, just because one problem exists doesn't excuse it from treating other problems. The universe is indifferent, nothing matters, let's all roll over and die right? Well it doesn't work that way. It's understandable that with high homicide rates (which obviously need their own solution) the black population feels like the cops should help them, and not be an enemy. Which again, not the message they're sending.
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  10. tatsujb

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  11. squishypon3

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    Literally never said it wasnt wrong that these people are getting killed for no reason. Please stop your assumptions.

    Unarmed people being killed without a real explanation is of course totally wrong. I'm baffled at the most recent shooting. I'm understanding with some (pointing replica weapon at an officer for example) but what's happened as of late is wrong.

    Just because I bring up reasons why this is happening to some extent doesn't mean I'm excusing it.

    Edit: And obviously I know you said police are killing people, but how many who are killed have weapons on hand? Because then of course lethal force can be necessary. (But really hopefully not what ends up happening!!)
  12. killerkiwijuice

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    Nice article, but I don't think they are getting killed because the police hate blacks rofl

    The really bad cops and really bad mistakes are the ones showed on the news. These events happen to blacks the most for reasons other than racism.
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  13. tatsujb

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    BLACK people.

    they are killing predominantly BLACK people. admit it!
  14. tatsujb

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    how can you believe that?

    WHAT other reasosn??

    the statistics are so blatantly against you there. you gotta admit there's something wrong with the stats.
  15. squishypon3

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    Only because it happens black people commit more crime, because they're more often brought up in poorer areas with a lot of crime in an atmosphere that promotes crime through music and just general upbringing.

    Many people aren't being killed due to their race- They're being killed because they have a weapon and are committing a crime. And they're not committing crime because of their race but sadly due to their terrible situation.

    Reasons why America needs better treatment of our poor communities, better education systems, open Healthcare and support from therapists, etc. As well as reform on the drug situation, and gun control.

    "In 2012, white males were 38 percent of the population and committed 4,582 murders. That same year, black males were just 6.6 percent of the population but committed a staggering 5,531 murders."
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  16. stuart98

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    Blacks are also three times as impoverished on average as non-hispanic whites.

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    So this goes back to ending the cycle of poverty that's the root of all this.
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  17. squishypon3

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    Yep! Which is something I'm all about. Was really backing Bernie hard and was depressed to see our current options win out.
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  18. killerkiwijuice

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    I'd rather not discuss the other reasons in-depth because it will make me look racist. Just google "race iq gap": it's certainly a controversial topic but the studies are very much the opposite of anecdotal.

    great statistics, they're normalized too:
    https://infogr.am/Black-34991937313
  19. tatsujb

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    yes much like when we "prooved" black's skulls were shaped differently
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