The Politics Thread (PLAY NICELY!)

Still don't think the best solution to the insurance system was to give everyonr insurance. (Or in some cases force people). Insurance is a flawed system because it was exploitable by both sides who passed the burden to the user. If we force prices to match non insurance holder fees we might be able to make things more reasonable for the average American.

Woe be whoever gets insurance FORCED upon them. And this of cource happened in billions upon billions of instances. /s

To be fair, the problem isn't having insurance forced on you, it's that the policy coverages for most insurance went to crap, costing literally thousands of dollars for a copayment for any sort of treatment and a free checkup yearly as about the only things the insurance gives you, and the costs went up 800% since the ACA.

Basically, price gouged 800%, for 40% previous coverage. That is the ACA. An enforcement to buy insurance, but not necessarily to receive insurance.

Wouldn't mind it being revoked, wouldn't mind it being completely reworked or did differently. NOT A FAN of it staying, and since Hillary is big-pharma endorsed, it goes without saying what she wants to do. "Help all the common class Americans" by jacking up the fines and lowering the threshold to recieve help with insurance. It is literally one of the only services that cost that much even for those technically in the poverty line, besides some state's automobile insurance ironically enough.

There's 3 ways this can work. No enforced insurance, and insurance companies either go broke because nobody buys their junk, or offer reasonable prices. Enforced insurance, and insurance companies have no obligation to maintain reasonable prices or coverage as long as they make it believable. And, what some nations already do, albeit a higher tax rate to cover it, universal healthcare that covers regularly necessary lifesaving and preventive healthcare while insurance still operate to offer supplementary and extended coverage.

Trump changes stance: hes flexibele.

Anyone else changes stance: liars

I have no clue why Trump changes stance. Tbh, hasn't had much time to be evaluated on that.

Hillary has done this before. It's lying until it's proven otherwise, because it was proven to be lying in the past. If she is truthful, no "interpretation" or anything, just once if she is elected, about her campaign promises prior, then to hell with it, she's honest again. I just don't want to have to "trust it" knowing a history otherwise.

Biggest fear with universal healthcare is the amount of abuse it will receive and its inefficiency in improving the health of the overall population. Currently, universal healthcare would work if things were to remain the same for the next 30 years... which is a bad thing.

Healthcare is bad right now. The WHO has recently discussed other avenues for improving the overall quality of life for humans by describing what are called social determinants for health. A few examples of these determinants are access to healthy food and education.

Ultimately, I believe the WHO is right and healthcare will transition into various wellness programs that promote health. After all, diet and exercise are the two number one preventative measures taken to prevent the majority of the issues in our current healthcare system. Hospitals are arguably the least effective in this regard since they are meant for emergency purposes only.

Thus, universal healthcare wont work as well as it should in the future because it will only be designed to support paying for medical expenses, rather than taking action in improving the health of a human.

To simplify my discussion above, I made a set of instructions:

-How to healthcare-

Step one: eat three cheezburgers
Step two: google stomach ache
Step three: find link that describes stomach ache having correlation with cancer.
Step four: conclude from your elementary school health class that you therefore have stomach cancer.
Step five: Go to the ER.
Step six: Get 20 different tests done that try to find why you are in pain.
Step seven: Doctor gives you a few Tums...
Step eight: pay medical bills.

Step eight is what everyone complains about, but nobody talks about the other seven steps before that are used to prevent step 8. Universal healthcare doesn't help in this regard either.

I would rather trust the free market in coming up with a solution rather than the government. Banning people from fast food and soda wont work.

As usual, you can't fix stupid

You can fix stupid. It's that stupid doesn't like to be fixed. And the guaranteed method of fixing is not very ethical

shoo shoo you simpsons fans, get a room and watch it together you

RIP

are you kidding us?

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...and when you see otherwise, you ignore it.

Meh he's just like the "average" american in this regard.


Poor Australians are going to get it

I know I shouldn't generalize but hey if Trump is allowed to do it so can I for once

To be honest, belgium's not exactly the center of the world.

Heresy!
The 'founding fathers' of Europe: DNA reveals all Europeans are related to a group that lived around Belgium 35,000 years ago

Public school sucks, long live homeschool!

Where you actually learn ****.