The Politics Thread (PLAY NICELY!)

I think it's funny how people think Trump is going to deport every last Mexican/Hispanic person from the US, illegal or otherwise.

That's a load of bullshit. He has opinions just like everyone else - he's not spouting outright ignorance on how the world works. Just because you think a system works for you doesn't mean you can apply it to everyone.

Reagan was an amazing president because he was really, REALLY good at political negotiation. We don't need a third party, we need another Great Negotiator.
Trump is claiming he's that guy, but I'm skeptical due to his bullish personality.

Priceless coming from a non-american, srsly.

but he is though. "the mexicans are gonna pay for it" "the moon landing was staged" all his propositions relating to unethical and unequal treatment of groups of people based on religion; those relating to denigrating groups of people lumped together by imprecise and abstract rules to be the scapegoats responsible for america's problems; objectifying of women and admitting the KKK amongst his side.

the list goes on and on I'd loose my breath covering it all. NO!

he'd got no clue how the world works.

I can't understand anymore how you justify to yourself supporting him.

what's the point?

seriously what's the point in voting for him if it's to get him ...not ....doing what he says he'll do?

It's like saying you'd like to buy a full jar of empty.

what part of his plans are you actually interested in him doing and he can actually do because mysterious entity lets him for once when it's convenient?

I'm not a Trump advocate, but the level of ignorance pertaining to the deportation of Mexican/Hispanic peoples that he speaks of was a bit annoying (after seeing endless propaganda on that matter).

by "propaganda" do you mean the words comming out of his mouth ?




there's nobody distorting statements here this is straight from the source.

@KillerKiwiJuice @mered4 are you guys giving up on him? cuz I know I would be right about now.

Incoming Trump rant:

The reason why trump has such a tremendous following can be described in an "us vs them" argument. Make a T chart and write down everything you associate with the word "us" as a citizen. Do the same with "them" for things that are against america. This is the current climate of american politics.

Trump labels "them" as anyone that doesn't have a direct relationship with the country. Everything from the population to business and foreign affairs falls under this category.

Granted, the caveat behind this approach is who/what is america? A lot of his "criticism" falls under this exact reason where he hasn't labeled "black" or "women" in the appropriate column. Thus, most of his commentary contradicts what many people interpret as american. This is also why the Republican party has many discriminatory tendencies towards anyone that isn't white and possesses a Y chromosome.

Despite all the bigotry that Trump slews across the air waves, will he actually promote discriminatory policy against all these different parts of society? If there already is discriminatory policy put forth, does the absence of prioritization of change for such policy entail discrimination?

These patterns aren't uncommon either. In Europe, nigel Farage and Marie le pen both come to mind. In both cases, the "us" was always the issue for both respective populations. Trump is merely a manifestation of these same tendencies.

There is no doubt that Trump may have some discriminatory tendencies in his set of genes. Does that mean he is a bad person? Depending on your level of tolerance, this is how you will view him.

If its Trump vs. Hillary, Bernie supporters will have a hard time making a decision. I don't mean to label the Bernie population as a bunch of college and middle class white Americans... But that is a general trend. I see a lot of Bernie stickers on campus.... Seriously, how will Bernie supporters feel when Hillary gets elected because of her super delegates? If they aren't going to get the free college/ loan forgiveness and 15$ minimum wage that Bernie claims, what else will they stand for?

Trump has received riots, threats, and petitions sent to the white house based upon everything he has said thus far. All his policy discussion thus far have been in some for discriminatory towards anyone that isn't american... I dont think many people disagree on this portion...To some extent, Isnt that what foreign policy is? Granted Trump is still navigating his stances on domestic policy, hopefully one that isn't too discriminatory.. If your a trump supporter, "black" and "women" aren't necessarily on the "them" column, yet hasn't put them in the "us" column.... which is a concern.

If the republicans merely put "women" & "black" in their "us" column, this election would be over. This feat I fear is too ridiculous to comprehend for the party... despite US history showing that they were here from the beginning.

Trump rant over...

What? His criticisms are the fear mongering, empty claims, blatantly false statements, lack of concrete stances, and being a ****.

And as a Bernie supporter, Hillary also has the popular vote right now. She's not winning because of super delegates. Shes winning. Period. If she wins the nomination I'm voting for her.

this is great : this guy's a genius at digging his own grave.

first he comes out as an earther now he's joining the ranks of "vaccines cause autism" :


someone needs to present this guy with facebook it'll be hillarious : he'll join flat earth theory and the preppers.

That debate happened in September.

dude i know.

I didn't know this and neither did all the trump supporters in this thread. these people need to fukin know who they're supporting.

I know what he said, Tatsu. I'm not an ignorant **** who watches debates almost 6 months after they've been aired. I'm also not a Trump supporter. I'm simply tired of people saying BS they have not researched and don't understand the context.

He wants to deport people who have illegally immigrated into our country. He wants to focus on that. Does he have a plan yet? Probably. It's no more than an outline right now - the guy hasn't even won the nomination yet. He doesn't want to deport *all mexicans* or *all muslims.* He's using those terms because the VAST MAJORITY of illegal immigrants are either mexican or muslim.
Is that wrong? Nope. Those people broke our laws. They should face the consequences. Especially the ones he talks about in those videos. The guys who rape and pillage. That's not racist, and it's not bigotry. That's pretty standard Republican fare. He's just the first one who said he wants Mexico to pay damages for all the illegals in our country that they haven't stopped.

Fear mongering? What the actual **** is Bernie doing if Trump is fear mongering?
Empty claims? Lol. So does Bernie
Blatantly false statements? Welcome to politics.
lack of concrete stances? Have you researched ANY OF THIS?
Being an ***? Welcome to politics.
Hillary better not win the stinkin' presidency. She's a corrupt, lying bitch.

Wait you say Bernie is fear mongering?

Woot?

i can't believe it. I really can't. I really thought this would seal the deal for you as I believed you to be smarter than this.

but it turns out you aren't.

I'm just glad we went from :

to :

some progress was made here today.

I leave you with a pedophilic incestual trump to a degree of discustigness you've never witnessed to ponder upon :
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/8wmfl...-archive---donald-trump-s-history-of-misogyny

oh yeah and the best one :
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f04_1455472907


and really where do you get off giving yourself the privilege to say that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are Mexicans and Muslims without having the numbers to back it?

you're just basking in being a racist bigot for the pleasure of it now.

@mered4 I also have to wonder if Cruz to you is the answer.