The Politics Thread (PLAY NICELY!)

>Has facts discredited
>Calls person that discredited them delusional
>mfw

I've been getting called delusional alot on the AOTS forums by the lead developer lately.

He disproved his own point if you read it

Hamas provoked Israel, and they use the excuse that Israel's "occupation" of Gaza was somehow "oppressive" to their "people." It wasn't, by the way.

we could be

FAKE OR LINK

http://forums.ashesofthesingularity.com/472032/page/1/#3598851

access denied rip

Link doesn't work. Screens instead?

it's a founder's thread indeed. I tend to forget this is a restricted access forum.

*doesn't really feel anymore like reading all this madness*
*skips ahead*
*lolwut it turned into a discussion on the question of SupCom was profitable*

xD

mered one thing I have to say though: If you say that Israel has the right on that land because of 2000 (!) year old claims I'd recommend you read up on the history of the USA.
I am pretty sure there are a few native inhabitants from 2000 years (or less) ago to your place who could use that way of thinking to claim your home ground from you.

Mered, what are you going to suggest next, that Germany should start a war to retake Kaliningrad/Königsberg?

It's a different situation. I'd rather not go down that road (which is something most political leaders have avoided) because it's essentially down to their word and the other guy's word. It's not something that can necessarily be resolved, and it shouldn't be what the argument is based around.

Instead, we should be focusing on the failed peace talks that the Arabs and Isrealis keep walking out of. They walk out because either the Arabs refused to cede reasonable concessions to the Israelis or they demanded utterly crazy land grabs and stuck with them (I believe one of those was no more fence and East Jerusalem). Or, the Israelis stick to their guns on the *don't arm the thugs blowing up our stuff* point and the Arabs act offended and walk away.

Look at how each side treats their PoWs, too. Hamas regularly beheads their prisoners if they aren't rescued or exchanged. Israel gives them a fair trial and decent lodging. That should explain the difference between the two sides quite clearly, I would think.

you mean like it is with you ?

He seems to believe that "what israel considers reasonable" and "What arabs consider reasonable" are two identical things and therefore the Arabs are wrong for not accepting. Even though the Arabs may have very different ideas and concepts of what's reasonable.

The west is not immune to that either, hardly.

Dude, what? They have two completely different ideas of 'reasonable' here. Why would they ever be the same?

That's a pretty accurate description of a Republican to me.

fixed that.

Way to be an *******.

Why? The flow of logic isn't republican or democrat: both sides do the exact same thing.

Besides, separation of church and state is a thing that exists. I don't understand why it's even remotely considered OK for the leader of such a powerful nation to utter the words "god bless america". But if someone says Allahu akbar then he has 10 guns to his head, it's barbaric and scary.

It's both you. I've known jewish and muslim republicans.

The generalization of a people based on their political leaders or government policies is retarded.

Australians are out of touch morons. Germans are nazis. Spanish are pedophiles. Humans are alcoholics. Man, the world is so much simpler when you start generalizing people based on specific alarmist reports or government policies.

EDIT: **** broken quotes.

If you think this, why are you replying to me and not @proeleert ?