Atlas HP increase?

Discussion in 'Balance Discussions' started by jtibble, August 21, 2015.

  1. jtibble

    jtibble Active Member

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    Hi everyone,

    I just obliterated my opponent's advancing Atlas with a bunch of bombers, and it was so anticlimactic that I had to post here.

    I know it's early, but for the images and videos of the Atlas being this gigantic, hulking, smashing machine, it's pathetically weak. It feels even weaker than the ol' Monkeylord... flashy and epic but ultimately not that intimidating.

    Thoughts? I'd like to see a 50-100% HP boost.
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  2. stevenrs11

    stevenrs11 Active Member

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    An atlas with even minimal AA escort becomes far, far more durable simply because the vast majority of ground units evaporate before they can get a shot off.

    A few of the t2 mobile flak, some hummingbirds, and an archangel or two are devastating. Toss in a pack of Gil e to deal with groups of artillery and there is very little that can cost effectively stop an atlas.

    Oddly similar to the monkeylord, heh. Keep the air off of it and it watch the fireworks.
  3. stuart98

    stuart98 Post Master General

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    40,000 HP is weak now?

    That's about 3-4 times a commander's HP.
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  4. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    You havent watched an Ares eat a nuke yet, have you?
  5. stuart98

    stuart98 Post Master General

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    It eats what, 3? 4?
  6. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    Three :D
  7. jtibble

    jtibble Active Member

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    Haha I've been saying for so long that the nukes are weak. How does the Atlas attack range compare to the gile or bluehawk?
  8. huangth

    huangth Active Member

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    I am still not sure should Uber buff Altas' HP or not.
    But I feel the hp values of Altas and Ares should be swapped.

    Altas need to rush into the enemy, but it gets only 40K HP.
    On the other hand, Ares can fire from a far like a long range arty, but it gets 80K HP!
    Why an assault unit gets less HP than the arty unit gets?
    It is no sence.
    Last edited: August 21, 2015
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  9. iamassassin

    iamassassin New Member

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    I'd argue that the Ares is perhaps too strong.

    The Atlas and Zeus and Helios feel reasonably well balanced with their current durability. My solution would be to nerf the Ares.

    The solution to stopping your Atlas from dying is to support it with fighters or other AA. I don't like the idea of one unit being near unstoppable, no matter how must it costs.
  10. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    That will always stay true if your oppoent has no AA imho.
  11. probodobodyne

    probodobodyne Active Member

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    I'll quote myself from another thread:

  12. jtibble

    jtibble Active Member

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    And I realized that new T2 flak-tank would be a fantastic compliment to it

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