So, the Supreme Court confirmed LGBT rights?

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  1. kvalheim

    kvalheim Post Master General

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  2. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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    I still don't understand what they think will change in their own personal lives. Do they really think there'll be men dressed in pink g-strings and unicorn costumes parading down the street? I just don't get it.
  3. arseface

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    I'm once again reminded of how government workings go well over my head.

    I have no idea if this whole scenario was handled properly or not.
  4. thetrophysystem

    thetrophysystem Post Master General

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    Well it worked about as standard as a regular supreme court decision. Sort of fast, considering it is a liberal court and no longer a kennedy court. I miss the kennedy court to be honest, so balanced.

    Properly, can sometimes be the wrong term though. How often are there supreme court rulings and what do those guys do when there aren't cases like these? What about their election process? Is it really proper, or just unfair in a roundabout way?
  5. arseface

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    What I don't know is if this was the Supreme Court's decision to make. Federal jurisdiction, state rights, and the separation between court rulings and congress are all over my head.

    I didn't pay enough attention in high school and now I almost regret it. Almost. Not having an opinion on how things should be done lets me focus on outcomes. In this case the outcome is good.

    Was the decision handled properly? No idea. Politicians and lawyers go outside their legal scope all the time. I can never tell when it's one of those cases.
  6. Geers

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    I can't quite remember the US court hierarchy but I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court is the highest.

    A couple of years ago in Australia the ACT tried to legalize gay marriage. But state courts cannot make a ruling that contradicts the constitution. If that happens the state court's decision is overruled to the extension of the contradiction. Since the constitution defined marriage as "the union of a man and a woman" that didn't last too long.

    US structure is fairly different but I doubt that the Supreme Court overstepped their jurisdiction.
  7. Devak

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    I get that people don't like it, but americans of all people comparing it to 9/11 makes me want to shoot them. Really, basic human rights as bad as thousands of people burning and falling to their death?
  8. Gorbles

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    Nothing about giving a marginalised group rights they unfairly lacked is unfair.
  9. tatsujb

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    heh, we beat you ! :p
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  10. cdrkf

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    The UK has had same sex marriage for a while, nice to see other countries catching up :p
  11. Gorbles

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    On-topic, Canada has apparently had it for a decade. Which makes the Tweets even funnier :D
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  13. websterx01

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    The Supreme Court actually isn't sure about this either. From what I've read, the 4 dissenting votes were primarily because they don't feel that the Constitution has any bearing on this kind of civil right. In fact, the Supreme Court actually declined to rule on it for (I think) over a year and many State Supreme Courts denied appeals against the gay marriage, which in a round about way, helped the movement to where it was before the ruling.

    [According to this website, marriage is not mentioned in the constitution, so technically the Supreme Court can only count it as safeguarding liberties or something else along those lines.]
  14. Devak

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    Netherlands legalized it first....in 2001. So welcome America, 14 years late but better late than never
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  16. cola_colin

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    So they'll declare some wars now?
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  17. Devak

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    Yea on windmills and steam trains
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  18. Clopse

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    Well you guys do have Tony Abbott at the helm. Don't think he is too keen on gay marriage and is quite possibly the worlds worst leader. Kim Jong-un close second.
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  19. thetrophysystem

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    Someone said they would set themselves on fire if the supreme court upheld same sex marriage.

    They flaked.

    See, this is the difference between buddhists and christians. Christians are all talk, they denounce same sex marriage when the same book of Leviticus dictates, no same sex marriage, no divorce, no meat from animals without scales or slit-toe hooves, no sex with your neighbors slave (but slavery itself is ok?), and other silly out of date rules. Buddhists, however, they have proven they will set themselves on fire, in mass.
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  20. Clopse

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    Yeah well if Christians quote Levictus or any other book from the Old Testament they need to re read the bible. The rules of the Old Testament were a lot harsher because God was punishing us for our sins. Then you had the whole Jesus thing. His sacrifice was so we wouldn't have to live by those old harsher laws and that's why we have the New Testament. Nothing about gay marriage in New Testament (ifso facto gay marriage is cool with God).

    Anyhows I am a complete atheist but am not if ignorant so have read the book.
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