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  1. tatsujb

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  2. Geers

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    "oops".
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  3. tatsujb

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    today shall be a day of mourning for me.
  4. Geers

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    Because it's not like youtube does pretty much the same thing.
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  5. tatsujb

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    indeed it doesn't.



    ???

    you weren't serious I hope.
  6. cola_colin

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    but it does?
    Listening to music on youtube while writing this. In fact most of my posts are written while listening to music on youtube. Sometimes I buy mp3 downloads as well, but the majority of the music I listen to is youtube.
    Opening my youtube page is like openening a "here are the music videos you typically like to listen to"-kind of thing.

    For grooveshark I am not surprised. Were they really trying to do that out in the open as an official business?
    Though they apparently were trying to go more legal since a while, as they blocked their service here in germany ages ago, just like youtube blocks many music videos here. The german "GEMA" has very unrealistic ideas of how much they should be paid.
    Seems grooveshark had to realize that the could not even pay the cheaper rates of other countries organizations.

    Lucky for me 99% of the music I listen to is not associated with the GEMA and then there is always that button in my browser "make them think you are american" for the rare problems.
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  7. tatsujb

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    what you guys don't seem to get is that video is necessarily a heavier media then audio.

    grooveshark streamed to you higher quality audio at less internet bandwidth consumption.

    here are some of it's services that youtube does not feature.
    • launch radio from current queue
    • enhance radio picks through likes or dislikes
    • launch your personal radio
    • launch a radio by genre
    • suggest songs similar to...
    • start a public live broadcast
    • join ....a public live broadcast
    • click and drag ...everything
    • media key support
    • leap motion support
    these are the ones I know about and used there may have been more.

    I think you guys have never experienced the level of comfort I was operating at with grooveshark.
  8. cola_colin

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    I am listening to music videos on youtube while running 2 instances of PA, one pa server, 2 instances of the eclipse ide, 2 instances of the PA debugger and a ton of other applications. My i5 with 4 cores and my 16GB RAM can barely handle it at 80-90% cpu usage and 14-15gb ram in use. I should upgrade to 32GB I guess to be on the save side.
    In short: I SOOOOO don't care about resource usage. Just get more powerful hardware. My internet is fast enough as well at ~3mb/s.
    I also don't notice a difference between the audio in the differen quality settings, apart from 240p to 360p. 360p and up is all the same.

    You can like or dislike youtube videos and I am pretty sure they consider that. They also have "related videos", mine are filled with 99% music. They have "recommended videos", mine are 99% music of the kind I like.
    You can also make playlists and share them and stuff.
    Want to start a radio by genre? Search for the genre and start some of the playlists that pop up.
    It has also autoplay since a while, you open one music video and it will automatically play a related one after it finishes. It usually works pretty fine for many many hours, staying with what I want to hear.
    Really youtube functions like a perfect music box and has a very wide range of stuff, helping to discover new things as well.
  9. tatsujb

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    that is not true, what you're listening to can only ever be a playlist. the songs in the playlist can be automatically generated by youtube however they are not updated by it in real time.
    not in the least bit comparable and you know that, the "related" algorithm seems very lacking and poor.


    and as for the rest, I don't have the luxury of having your bandwidth. I'm not saying I can't handle yt while playing, I'm just saying it doesn't really mean anything. can you share this bandwidth over to me?

    Again, I reiterate, I don't think you quite realize how good grooveshark was since you have not used it.
  10. cola_colin

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    You don't realize how good youtube is.
    I mean they are owned by google. You realize what that means for all kinds of "search" algorithms they use? That includes the related videos.
    And no it does not have to be a playlist, as I said autoplay just plays back related videos one after another.
    The related stuff is so good I never even (well very rarely, I don't actively use like/dislike basically) felt the need to have to use any form of "dislike" to correct it. It just magically knows what I want to listen to. Dunno how it exactly remove stuff I don't want. Probably tracks exactly what I actively search for and what I actively select when I click some video myself.
    Scary!
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    Most people I know just use Pandora. Both it and Youtube lacks a decent number of songs I like. None of the music services I kow of have most of my songs, so I stick to downloads and cd rips.

    My entire music collection is legal, but it's been gotten from a silly number of different sources.
  12. cola_colin

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    I would say for youtube you will need a proxy in some cases as well.
    Basically if you're german it is a good idea to have a proxy server always available with a click or two.
  13. cola_colin

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    foxyproxy for chrome with my own proxy on my vserver in the us :)
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    the cool part about foxyproxy is that you can configure it to activate the proxy for specific urls via wildcard patterns
  15. arseface

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    Nope, fully legal. Not sure I appreciate your insinuations.

    The CDs I ripped are my own. Other stuff was either extracted from programs, bought digitally, or released for free by the artist.
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  17. cola_colin

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    nope, the article was updated, it's a fake of some shady other thing.
    Did the grooveshark people make a lot of money with what they did?
    If so I guess somebody might copy it for real. Here in germany we had some shady video streaming site called Kino.to which served lots of illegal streams for movies. It was brought down in big law suits and drama, people got arrested. Very soon thereafter a copy called KinoX.to came up, basically a copy of the last one. There's money to be made with that kind of page as long as the movie companies don't have their own reasonable offers and somebody will feel save enough to do it.
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    Ah, well. I've never used Grooveshark before, so I wouldn't know. Usually these sites get their money through lots of ads, so traffic is good. I don't know of any other revenue stream. Though this grooveshark site doesn't seem to have it. Very odd.
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    In other words... Get Rich Scrub?
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    Not really. I mean, apart from indie musicians, most income for musicians comes from in the form of concert tours, guest appearances, royalties and the like.
  21. cola_colin

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    Priorities. I am a sort of poor student.
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