PTE Build 80155-pte is now up

Updated OP:
Build 79896-pte 3/30/15

Balance:

Commander

- Build Arm Energy Demand decreased to 1750 from 2000​

Bomber (Bumblebee)

- No longer deals AOE damage upon death​

Fighter (Hummingbird)

- No longer deals AOE damage upon death​

Missile Bomber (Hornet)

- No longer deals AOE damage upon death​

Interplanetary Fighter (Phoenix)

- No longer deals AOE damage upon death​

Grenadier

- Now prioritizes turrets and commanders over its normal targeting priorities​

Bot Factory

- Placement Size changed to [40,55] from [30,55]
- Area Build Separation decreased to 2 from 10​

Vehicle Factory

- Placement Size changed to [40,55] from [30,55]
- Area Build Separation decreased to 2 from 10​

Naval Factory

- Placement Size changed to [40,50] from [20,50]
- Area Build Separation decreased to 2 from 10​

Air Factory

- Placement Size changed to [40,40] from [30,30]
- Area Build Separation decreased to 2 from 10​

Advanced Bot Factory

- Placement Size changed to [60,80] from [50,80]
- Area Build Separation decreased to 2 from 7​

Advanced Vehicle Factory

- Placement Size changed to [60,80] from [50,80]
- Area Build Separation decreased to 2 from 6​

Advanced Naval Factory

- Area Build Separation decreased to 5 from 10​

Advanced Air Factory

- Placement Size changed to [60,60] from [50,50]
- Area Build Separation decreased to 2 from 7​

Bugfix/Polish:

- Updated AI land neural net data

- Fix to how AI expands to other planets
- Added 3 prototype maps

Prototype 4-3-4
Prototype 4-2-2
Prototype 4-1-4​

@sorian, is that a code or script thing?

2 things about placement:
1) Does air factories need space? Like, besides looking non-clipping, they need no room around them to function.
2) The increased space the other factories need for rolloff, could it be complimented with, at least, a larger grey decal that they sit on, or at most a red outline when placing the building that shows exactly the area it consumes as to be more obvious you are in fact depriving yourself of a functioning metal spot?

They still run into issues of commander getting stuck with the old default spacing unfortunately.

What does "Removed death weapon" mean?

I'm liking the decrease to the commanders energy draw.

Sorry about that, I should make the "death weapon" more clear. It means it no longer deals AOE damage upon death.

You mean that when the unit dies/explodes, it doesn't deal AOE to other units stacked on top of each other?

yes

But I thought that was added to stop people from stacking units?

and it seems the decision was made that it is a bad way of doing it. But that's also what the change looks like.
@tvinita may be able to explain more.

https://forums.uberent.com/threads/hotfix-build-79600-is-live.68270/page-9#post-1077792

lol rip

While the changes are in PTE, we can experiment and see if it works. If not, then it won't go in the live build.

well there are no other changes to air, so it's just back to how it was before?

Is that actually possible? If so, couldn't they just change the AOE to only affect friendly units?

he killed his own commander that way.
After that the range of the explosion was reduced and now they play around with the idea of removing it again.

Well that was just stupid! Doesn't seem like a very good reason to remove the AOE.

There is a pretty easy way to completely break pathfinding: place a factory in a tight spot so that it nearly closes of the path. You may still be able to by hand carefully guide units around it, but the normal pathfinding suddenly decides to try and go through csg. Walling of with walls works as intended. Factories are cursed it seems.



first tested in stable, video made in PTE

Found in the steam forums http://steamcommunity.com/app/233250/discussions/0/618457398976825839/

Couldn't we agree, after a certain point, within reason, that it is definitely the player's fault for building a base like this?

I mean, one last tweak, would be allowing only mexes to be placed within factory's alloted space but check and deny construction within clipping into any structures, while not allowing anything else to build within factory's alloted space. I know there is a way to do this, I had a space mod not allow jigs to build close to each other but allow other things to build within this range of jigs. It prevented jigs from being too many, but didn't limit the rest of a players orbital building.

You can argue about it, but usually (at least for my definition) it is only the users fault if he/she knows how the program will behave. (Like formatting your hard drive, despite knowing that all the data on C: will be lost.)
But for my taste, the behaviour shown by colin falls more into the unexpected category. Why should pathing depend on the structure you build?
It looks like something within the initial search breaks down if it encounters some buildings in its way. And instead of a path being followed, the units just heading into the direction of the goal.

I assume that "- Fix for chronocam vision after game has ended" doesn't include the Economy / Army / Alliances box? Because that still does not properly update in chronocam in post-review for me. Is this still true for anyone else?