Mod Market

Having an official mod manager would be great. Having paid-for content in it though, would likely cause more harm than good. Any benefit (which would be small IMO) would be overshadowed by the massive admin required, various legal issues, negative view in general towards paid-for mod content and splitting of the player base, and that's before you even consider the issue of keeping paid-for content exclusive to those who have paid for it (an impossible task, without massive compromises).

I would much rather Uber spend their time more wisely - after all, there's nothing stopping a modder asking for donations or even setting up their own paywall to their mod if they so choose.

There are countless mods available for countless games. To try and claim as fact that only a tiny amount of the ones available, that you happen to have played, that in your opinion are good, are worth paying for is pretty hard to understand.

To add to this list:

• Total Annihilation unofficial patch
• DOTA
• Black Mesa
• DayZ
• Complex Mod (Homeworld 2)
• Team Fortress (Quake)

Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head, or I've played. 3 of the top 4, and 6 of the top 10 most-played games on steam are derived from mods.

PA has no offline DRM. It has a credential protected licensing system which grants access to the official servers, but that's it.

Even right now, you could just play with a server mod which grants you access to all commanders, even on the official servers.

who are you and what have you done with raevn?!

well if Uber can accept that then so can it's modders. online DRM-only (no DRM for offline) for mods it is.

And that won't work either. Not without stripping the user base from the established feature of being able to run arbitrary scripts inside Uberent hosted games.

Listen, once the infrastructure has been opened, there is no way of going back to more restrictive approaches. Uber has decided to provide both dedicated servers AND running arbitrary mods on their infrastructure without any code signing, only protected by the JS sandbox. It is no longer possible to enforce DRM for any type of mods which accesses only the API.

Only exception are full conversion mods which are shipped as entirely new games, independent from the PA eco system and incompatible due to forced API mismatches.

Ha! Your post to like ratio is imperfect!!!

Well I'll just have to fix that

that's a shame. the mod market was Uber's idea, not mine.

I still want it. what to do?

Before PA could correctly profit from a mod market like that it would need a substantial increase of players. Only above a pretty high level of active players will the positive effects of it outweigh the additional costs that raevn is talking about.

you're talking crazy talk, we can't have that on this forum. let's be rational, now common.

No

No raevn you didn´t understood what I said. I wasn´t claiming that those i mentioned, that I consider good examples that deserve that kind of treatment just to show him how false his statement was.
The thing that you try to show me is exactly what I tried with him. There are counless mods for countless games, that´s why I said and the list goes on

Wait what? I was agreeing with you (I was responding to theseeker2)

Aaaaah sorry I got missleaded

having him blocked causes confusions.

I just click "show ignored content" as soon as I see someone seemingly attacking me for no reason and not even adressing things I said, and then sure enough, there he was, right after my post.

Then they don't get to play the mod. Simple as that.

I don't think you understood, most people would rather just not play it, as in, they'd choose not to.

No I understood, that's what I said, if they don't think it's worth money, and the person or people who did the work do... Then they don't get to play it.

Just like anything else being sold.

Edit: For the record I don't think anything I've done is worth money, but I believe many mods are worth money.

Charging for mods. Do you want the community to shrink by 75 percent. Look at evolve and how mad people are with all the DLCs.

They're only mad because its a day 1 DLC.

PA would do amazing with a paid DLC now.

no, I get pissed off whenever I pay for a game and then they want me to pay up later for more content - if they wanted more money, they should have put it in the original pricetag.