General discussion on Pay to play

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by nosebreaker, January 17, 2015.

  1. theseeker2

    theseeker2 Well-Known Member

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  2. cybrankrogoth

    cybrankrogoth Active Member

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    I'd like to take a moment and point out I think there's been a small misunderstanding.
    Pay to play would refer to monthly subscription, or a single once off payment.
    PA falls under the single once off payment type of pay (in order) to play.

    Spending money to get units/upgrades etc falls under the colloquially referred term "pay to win".
    In short, those who do not buy the stuff almost always lose to those who do buy the stuff.

    I feel obliged to point out that there's also a possibility of ingame currency earned through grinding.
    In which case people who play less almost always lose to people who play more.

    The pay to play once off payment also adheres to Uber's self described "What you see is what you get" model, and it adheres to the Uber's "Keeping PA as simple as possible" model.

    On to my own personal opinion.
    The pay to win/grind to win scenarios are equally distasteful and I think the original "pay to play" model with a once off payment is sufficient.

    Thank you for your time.
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  3. nosebreaker

    nosebreaker Post Master General

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    I dont I never Have dont attempt to make me intellectualize and rationalize my behavior.
  4. Quantum64

    Quantum64 New Member

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    Let me attempt to assist you in understanding what third person referral is:

    The Nosebreaker thinks this could add significantly to Ubers cash flow.
    Plenty of game run succsessful formats supporting Pay to Play......
    Why should Uber not be able to Maximise Profits by pay to play..
    Sure some players would Sulk others would rejoice.
    Pay to play would enable much much more support and many many patches and more dlcs
    Some Ideas for pay to play
    $1 for each extra T1 unit accessible
    $2 for each extra T2 unit accesible
    $15 for alternative/supplementary Factory line with its own bot/tanks
    $25 for T2 commander upgrades .... increased build power, increased health, life regen, attack range, increased range.
    $1 instant nukes {gold rounds}
    $1 instant anti nukes.
    $20 Double commander size
    The Nosebreaker thinks pay to play is a brilliant idea
    Uber Think of the Cash increase.... you can not discount the game anyfurther then 80% This is your final option....................... Go for it Pay to Play
    More Units......... Tank Nerf........ Make it good......
  5. nosebreaker

    nosebreaker Post Master General

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    The Nosebreaker suggests you stay on topic.

    The worlds armies pay to win!!!!!
    You pay to win,,, in your every day purchase of every single consumer item you buy!!!
    Micro payments and monthly fees are just our western way of our life...............
    You pay to win in the Health care cover you choose........
    Why cant we have this is a game .... Dont see much complaining about the above in every day life.
    Why isnt Uber entitled to earning the best money for the amount of effort and brilliant round maps ideas they have put into the game...
    The More money they have the more games they can bring us.................... Think outside your greed box for a moment!
    The More money they have the better they can make this game!!!

    Your Greed people...Is some what sickening!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  6. c4ptainpronin

    c4ptainpronin Active Member

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    $1 for instant nukes and antinukes? Yea uber could make millions of the few idiots that would still play the game after that and spend thousands of dollars per match to see who can buy nukes faster.
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  7. igncom1

    igncom1 Post Master General

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    Classic NoiseBeaker.

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  8. nosebreaker

    nosebreaker Post Master General

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    I Think uber has enough money Not sure they need more of mine to keep the server going..
    It would be so tempting to buy the more powerfull Commander though......
    My back account dropped a little while I was playing D3 Im assuming I brought some HC AH gear !!!!!
    I could never get back into that account the passwords were always different!
    Pay to win is an interesting Idea.
    Lets hear from UBER
    If YOU DARE UBER!!!!
  9. ohhhshiny

    ohhhshiny Active Member

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    How about a pay-to-playable? You pay like 5$ and have a 33% performanceboost for ~50 games
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  10. cdrkf

    cdrkf Post Master General

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    Have you tried the game lately? It's getting *much* better :) Just have a look at the videos from the latest clan wars games... big large scale 4 v 4 stuff and no slow down at all*.

    *note I'm not saying you can't slow the game down, just performance in larger games is very much better. Looking at games from the start of clan wars and comparing to now shows a significant improvement on that score.
  11. lokiCML

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    The lokiCML agree that Uber needs a additional cash flow but disagrees with The Nosebreaker on pay to win. In order to support Planetary Annihilation for decades. So The lokiCML suggests some alternatives like dev donate box, a mod marketplace, extension packs, a campaign subscription, etc. As a kickstarter The lokiCML disagree wholeheartedly absolutely with pay to win for Planetary Annihilation.



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    P.S. The lokiCML as reading too much Nosebreaker.
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  12. rivii

    rivii Well-Known Member

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    Almost :p "Pay to Play" refers to (monthly) subscription. "Buy to play: refers to a 1 time payment to play the game indefinitly and "Free to Play" refers to well we all know what that means haha :p
  13. ohhhshiny

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    mhhh i really didnt play for a while... guess i gonna reinstall now and retry my max player on two giant planets

    Edit: Everyone curious in the outcome, i was able to create the system, but when i loaded in the AI skirmish it took like 10 minutes and my PC crashed. Not excactly what i was hoping for.
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  14. nosebreaker

    nosebreaker Post Master General

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    Well if we have pay to win/ pay to play/ micro payments for imporoved units and unit strenths
    Then Uber will have more money to throw more staff at problems....
    There will be more everything even players.

    Every person has a portion of their pay allotted to entertainment wheather they agree with that comment or not its a fact....
    Uber should take a shot at getting some of that money!

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  15. Raevn

    Raevn Moderator Alumni

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    I strongly doubt it.
    Less people would play it because they would immediately recognise it is pay to win; people in general want to play games because they are fun, challenging and exciting. A game where you can spend a few dollars and win is none of those.
    Those few remaining would no longer pay to win because there is no-one left to brag to or play with.
  16. nosebreaker

    nosebreaker Post Master General

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    The Nosebreaker Doubts your doubts...
    The Nosebreakers likes approach 4 likes to 1 post ratio.......
    Yours are not .........so........
    The Nosebreaker does not feel your voice carries the hearts and souls of the masses....
    Fact of matter !!!!
    More Money for Uber !!!
    Better!!!

    The Nosebreaker likes this post,,,, To the post below there is no brag only fact
    Last edited: January 20, 2015
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    Last time someone tried to brag about their likes on this forum someone else ended up with an extra 7k likes in a matter of hours
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    Yeah, but The Nosebreaker did not approve of that person!!
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  20. nosebreaker

    nosebreaker Post Master General

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    The Problem with you toxic minority is your the loudest on the forums.....
    Uber could miss out on much needed funds and your fafing about eighty bucks more........
    Uber should release pay to upgrade extra units to the unit deck for those that wish to buy them......
    If you dont want to play with them simply dont buy them... Let the supporters of Uber Use the new stuff only.

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