Uber pls: in-game clan controls

Its all semantics.

How I have learned it strategy is the initial order or plan, tactics is how said plan is executed on the go.

For example: I would be excersing strategy when I tell a large group of units to attack a weak point in the back of an enemy force or stronghold, however let's say my units come in contact with enemies on the way- well how I react to that little engagement would be tactics as I could say either to ignore or attack said group whilst still having the ultimate strategic goal of attacking the rear of the enemy base.

Really I'd like to avoid these terms- as well as Micro/Macro as theyve come up multiple times on here and always start up arguments completely based on semantics

Exactly. And since semantics=communication, it's important to bring in someone who knows how to read the dictionary in order to ensure that people are communicating instead of talking past each other.

Those three words sum it all up quite nicely.

@icycalm I just noticed, you have two threads with the "Uber pls" going on, I love it. Actually made me laugh out loud. Also, seriously, what specifically do you mean by clan controls? Do you mean the in-game arrangement and management of clans? Of their battles? Of their communication?

Well with proper definitions strategy and tactics are nearly synominous (in fact many dictionaries list them as synonyms.), the ones I use are a part of game theory and as such apply to games.

Uh, stop this, really. Im in clan, Im Uber ranked, and I played both CSGO and PA for a while. I know how both games work in competetive space, I know how it works. I dont say **** from my butt, I say what I experienced many times.

Very well, in which case your experience differs drastically from mine. In my experience teams of randoms are not able to give even an intermediate team a proper challenge. Do you play team games in PA? If so, I've never seen you in a team in the MP lobby or in a tournament.

Only if you realize that semantics are EXTREMELY IMPORTANT in order for homo sapiens to properly communicate. Usually, "it's all semantics" is used in the sense "it's all insignificant" by people who don't value communication (and hence thought), whereas it should be used in the exact opposite manner.

The same stuff they have in games like AirMech and PlanetSide. Uber knows what I am talking about. Proper clan creation, enrollment, etc. Ultimately, even a clan leaderboard.

I didn't mean it in that way- I only meant to say we may never really agree on the whole tactics and strategy thing- and that it might be hard to discuss without having the definitions being in tact, and all that.

Squish my dear, you meant it exactly like that, just like the person who quoted you, just like everyone who has ever used the phrase "it's just semantics".

As for the definitions, I gave them to you. Tactics=battle, Strategy=war. Tactics=micro, Strategy=macro. It's really very simple.

Well If I did mean it in that way then I'm confused on my intentions and may need to rethink how I see people considering I love talking and making friends and try to be as understanding as possible. XD

You love making friends and being as understanding as possible, but you also love perpetuating myths and fallacies such as "it's all subjective anyway" and "it's just semantics anyway" as means to put an end to valid, complicated discussions.

Im not saying that randoms can win clan games, Im saying that you can know what happens without the mic and still cooperate in game. I dont know, I just can be on many planets at once and react to it, it feels ok for me.

And maybe we miss eachother, because of different hours of play

Btw, your first part of review of PA is really nice, but probably a little bit controversial for masses

I +1 this idea for i need clan controls to make sure AIx only has Uber smurf level accounts in it. I must keep AIx from taking main accounts from the big clans that need all those members!

Not really, I mean earlier I did ask we use different terminology. (Or really I asked we avoid the terms micro and macro, as well as strategy and tactics as i find it incredibly hard to have a discussion and understand others points when we have contradicting definitions.

Strategy is everything leading up to the engagements. All of the movements, privatizations of objectives, until a particular engagement becomes inevitable.

Tactics is what happens in the engagements themselves.

I don't know that it's possible for a first person shooter to have strategy considering that everything you do is individual movements to get favorable positions in firefights, aka tactics.

I vote for a save game feature to jump right to the top of Uber's priorities (and some different game modes to jump to number 2).

That and working lobbies are really number 1 priorities.

Clan controls would be nice to have.

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More ontopic:

For those who don't know: I am a member of VoW, a German clan. We had a huge influx (for our size) of players over the last month (without advertising, just by playing games and talking with the people in the lobby or giving them our TS data). Our people play team games versus randoms all of the time. And these people usually don't stand a chance though sometimes there are 1 or 2 good people in the enemy team. We had a time when we played against a clan called [NW] and these guys are really good at the game. But they are not in public like Realm or Promethean. What I am saying is: There are other clans out there and I guess if exodus makes a clan season 2 (with less strict rules regarding player lists; maybe allow standins for smaller clans), we would see more clans appear. Then the clans would get more attention and therefore more players, like it happened to us (ok we are in a good spot as one of the few german clans and a big number of german players in the game). It would indeed be nice to have a tournament list or a clan list in the game for that, so +1 for the idea.

PlanetSide

Keep meaning to play PS2 but the grind is insane from what I've heard, which isn't my idea of fun.

No grind. Really. Check the game out.