Are dox really that powerful at all right now?

Okay so please excuse me as I haven't done any high level play since Alpha... But I have been showing my step dad (Mike) the ropes of PA. He's loving PA btw.

He used to play SC2 quite a bit, and it's funny seeing him be amazed by the more intuitive ui.. Anyway to the point- We've been playing on LAN vs ai players admittedly and well... The dox really seems to suck, tanks beat bots incredibly well, and I've been spamming out 30 factories and crushing bot/tank mixes.

Though I guess you could say they're just not rushing dox early enough? I'm not sure.

I haven't touched vehicles in a while. I even ended up in a 5(?)-way FFA with Elodea and still won. Somehow. Might've been because everyone else was on the moon and I was alone but meh.

Dox still rek face

Dox can be everywhere really fast, preventing the other player from earning any more metal.

I think Dox vs Tanks are in a really good place right now. Metal for metal tanks completely wreck dox, but Dox are essential for raiding unguarded areas and misdirecting enemies. So a good build will make use of a bit of both. Now we just need a slight buff to grenadiers, combat fabs, and infernos so those units are also useful.

I think the main issue with dox is that they have no support from other bots, wheras the tanks can have plenty of support from other tanks.

You mean that when you build the vehicle factory all stuff you make it from it is useful while in the bot factory only dox are useful? So you build the bot factory only for one one purpose, but you can do a lot more with a vehicle factory. Just to check if your point came across right to me ( A bit tired you know)

Dox itself is a really nice unit. But the price. It's too damn cheap. Too. Damn. Cheap.
By the time you make your first tank, there are already dox near your base killing your fabbers.

50% metal cost increase, IMO, should be a step forward.
Less dox spam -> more performance
Less dox spam -> more viable first factories

If you do that dox will be useless as you need numbers to beat tanks.

But... but... they kill your fabbers and mex, and you have to cancel tanks and build fabbers

Tbh I prefer bombers for that job

This would remove dox from the game. Considering 1-2 tanks properly micro'd can take on 5-10 dox, I don't see the issue. It's very easy to protect against dox incursions with tanks and your commander. And just Ctrl+click to add a new fabber to the top of your existing queue if you need a new one. Easy peasy.

I personally think the raiding niche was a bad idea. I like the dox in RCBM.

I really dislike their bots in RCBM... It's just odd to me.

i currently dont see many players using grenadiers ...
and booms are VERY situational ... and that is ok i think ...
on rare occasions i see combatfabs be fielded but that is it realy ...
so bot wise grenadiers and combatfabbers need some love ...

the problem is that they are currently too expensive to be worth much...

i like Tanks...there powerful....and have more
HP...what more would you like?

everything usefull ... and i want everything to have its use otherwise it's a waste of unitpoolspace

#addbackwheretankscan'tgothrowforestsodoxonlycan

#no