Dear Uber, is there any chance of a rethink on global chat?

This forum is one of my greatest sources for mentally referencing that comic.

I'll always the remember the night I stayed up till like 2am arguing with tatsu about human resources with a 9am lecture on the horizon

On topic: I fully support a global chat, because it just seems self evident that it's useful and... why not?!

I mean... why not?

Don't get why anyone would be against it tbh.

One of the benefits of global chat would be connectivity. Starting up the game and seeing everyone who's playing in chat just feels so much more social even if they're all strangers.

A player count statistic should also be brought back, I heard they removed it.

it's the " i dont want this **** be thrown into my face " attitude ... in other words people going multiplayer simply don't want to see the blabber of hundred other people by the first second they did so but only if they themselfes chose global chat .. if at all ..

I guess if we have to go all out there could be a big "You will now join the chat. If you are afraid of that please click >here< to disable it forever. Else click some other button to never see this warning again and join the chat now"
Though to me that looks childish. As if seeing a chatroom for a bit is gonna scar anybody.

or simply have it in closed tabs on the bottom of the window like the uberbar ... only being visible when you click on it ...
not like people would have such a trouble to find it ...

too many people don't know what is good for them and would never realize to click it. The whole point is that the whole multiplayer experience should center around being "together" with others, not only while playing, but also while wanting to play. It needs to be a place where people go to meet the community.

Wow... really tatsu?

Anywho I'm all for a global chat!

oh it can ... it can even be the push to never want to go back to a game to retry after you upgraded your stuff and fix the stuff to run on your new rig ... case of "community" ruined the game for someone else

psychologicaly humans are both buttholes AND fragile ... especialy online

see statement above ...
people experienced scrap with something before
why shall they themselves be zapped again?
don't push stuff onto someones face .. no matter if extreme case or exception of rule ...

Despite the fact that you should always live in fear of the false dilemma fallacy, I never argued that a chat wouldn't be good for the community. But it is necessary to point out that this comes with an price tag. And well, there are some more pressing things that have to be done in PA.

At the end the only thing we can do, is to exchange our arguments - I wouldn't call this a discussion. The final decision is made by Uber. So, I would recommend to take this a bit more lighthearted, and read more xkcd!

criz.

Yep, this is really the way to do it. Have it in there for people who want it, default it on so people notice it is there, and make it nice and easy to turn off for people who don't. A win-win-win. Really the only difficulty I see right now is Uber having the resources to implement and moderate a global chat.

I guess everything is possible with the human mind, but if a bit of text in a chat written by strangers can do that to a person that person has more serious issues than playing games on the internet.

Really, that's your reason for not wanting it? You don't want to look at it once after the update for the amount of time it would take you to turn it off?

I don't mean to cause offence, but that does seem sort of childish when so many people are in favour and have made such good arguments for why it's a good idea.

doesn't have to be one bit of text only ... can be number of bits texts over period of time or bits of text in a row ...
issues can be also totaly different and unrelated .. but lets not go too deep into that stuff now ..

my opinion have a collapsed tab for globalchat for whenever people want to click on it rather than having to enable disable it on the option menu ...

Time wise that's unfair to the majority if people who want to use a chat. They have to click that button all the time.
A toggle to make it open automatically is much better and as the majority of people wants a chat it should be enabled by default.

Seriously, I don't understand your stance on this?

What grounds do you have for not wanting it other than the 10 seconds it would take you to turn it off, once?

I might just me missing your point, but if so please explain it to me.

i personaly dont care about global chat at all ... i experienced enough games no matter the genre where people went bananas in globalchat that i just started to either ignore it or closed it entirely and only used when i had to and instead used pm's or private ... i just dont trust global chat to be worth my time in general again no matter the genre ... yet again i didnt say anything against having it at all ...

to answer your follow up post:
uncertaincy


so instead of going to the options menu
just have a sort of pinbutton directly on the globalchat tab so it stays open after whatever you do until you unpin it ... direct setting where you want to have them ... if there is someone entirely antichat he just doesnt need to click on the tabs ... done ...
if people want it always open pin it .. if they dont unpin ... done ...
admitedly a bit of extra .. but that much more convinient .. imo

Absolutely agree for a global chat, it's an excellent way for people to socialise, and it would probably help if people could continue in global chat when they're in a game lobby too

Don't bring politics into this. Don't talk about things you do not understand. Can we agree on this? Because otherwise I'd be flaming right now.

Thanks and have a FANTASTIC CONSERVATIVE DAY.

Meh Romney care right after was hilariously contradictory.

But... No politics, alrighty!

A chat has it's benefits for a community to commune.

But it honestly doesn't provide much to the people who don't play multiplayer.


As is the problem I have with many of the suggestions for RTS games these days, they are all focused on groups that I'm not really apart of, so they don't hold much weight for the single player.

And I still laugh thinking about the amount of times people have tried the argument of "What benefits us, benefits you!" when regarding such features. I mean, that's not really as true as they try to make it seem. It does help some parts of the product like balance, but not really as much as would time spent on something that directly benefits a single player features like GW or the AI.

So is a chat good to have? Yeah, but does it help players like me? No, it doesn't really add much of worth to a player like me, I have spoken a few times on the FAF chat, and while they were pleasant enough, it also doesn't exactly add to my FAF experience.

In FAF I use the mod and map vaults (Still waiting on that search function for maps with proper AI markers), and of course the lobby tools to automatically host and create games for me to play.


But the chat? Didn't really improve the gameplay experience, nor did it make the experience worse.


It was a neutral feature.

And if you were honestly looking for a argument as to not have a chat, that would be it. It won't make PA worse, but it won't really add anything either.