Internal Playtest Recap – Matchmaking!

It's that age-old problem!

Part of it can be solved by looking at the game as a whole. You realize that a 1v1 (for example) may only get to the mid to late game, whereas FFAs and especially large team games will move well beyond the late game into a sort of end game, where orbital and super weapons make up the majority of attacks. Currently, 1v1s only reach into the early-mid game, which makes the divide between FFAs and team games.....quite apparent.

You don't balance the game around a single game mode - you do a balance based around the progression of the game over time, with boundaries for how far each game mode reaches into the meta. Like Comm-boxing, which never gets by the second mex.

Take in mind that this is my opinion though - it is what works best for me.

wrong he is not just another person ...
he is THE KING OF THE PLANET ... for now ....

I'm happy there will be matchmaking soon. <-- Notice the on-topicness of this post.

I much don't care about ladders, but i do think the game needs balancing, even me, a mediocre player, that usually goes for big FFA and team matches, can tell u that. U basically build only 4 or 5 units, hummingbirds, doxes, tanks and Shellers (late game), maybe spinners, that makes the game feel poor. People only use boom bots and bombers for snipes.

I think uber can put their money where their mouth is by implementing small balance changes in PTE versions so that we can see what they are cooking up and give them feed back, they can also see if their changes have some unintended results as they often generate. I think this way everyone is happy, players get to see uber working on balance and Uber gets feedback and testing on their balance changes.

IMO this is much better then a huge balance changes that trows everything head over feet.

I agree with your post, but i just want to point out that shellers are not that good anymore Snipers bots have kinda taken over their role.

"the game clearly doesn´t need further balancing!" - said nobody ever!
"the balance of this game is ONEHUNDREDPLUSTHAUSANDPERCENT PERFECT!" - said nobody EVER!
"the game TOTALY and utterly is were i wan´t it to be" - said NOBODY EVER! (inb4 "but the devs do": "release is merely the basegame")

"i expect optiperfectional balance on first-nanosecond-of-the-first-day release!" said no sane person ever ...
(in no way directed torwards @LmalukoBR ... but seriously some people truely act like ... )

I understand what you are saying, but there are levels to a problem. Nothing is ever perfect, like building a house there is always a small something you can improve and might wanna change (and that is alright), but if the house is missing a roof, then that is a big problem.
I decided to post because people were saying that the regular players (not 1v1 pros) found the balance good, and that is not the case IMO.
Also, have you read the rest of the post? When i suggest that, if balance is a work in progress, why not show it to the community, and use them as testers as u incrementally make the changes you believe are needed (does that sound like someone who expects perfect balance by next update?)

Great recap.

This update has no balance changes. We'll release update notes once it is closer to live, but it is a ranked update with matchmaking. That was the focus.

Balance is being worked on. I do not have a date for you as to when it will be released unfortunately, but as soon as I do, I'll let you know.

We are planning on streaming a lot more often. We playtest every day, but don't think it will be helpful to stream them all as some are really just broken stuff we are first working on. We'll also be shooting for more weekly video updates. We are planning on being around a long time with PA, and the goal is to continue making it better. We have a lot we want to do, and are trying to prioritize it to match up with the majority player expectations. The goal is to make it a better game with every update, and we hope to be able to continue this into the future

It would be really nice if communication about that process could happen. Just throwing balance changes at us without prior discussion would be a dice role.
How i.e. do you guys consider texts like mine: https://forums.uberent.com/threads/of-investments-energy-metal-and-reclaiming.65512/
for your decisions?

Good thoughts. We'll look into more ways to communicate it.

I too would like this question answered.

But I'd also like a balance changes discussion thread where the devs post their proposed changes and we discuss them.

That would be cool. And super awesome. And useful.


I'll try to keep Nanolathe in helpful minion mode

Awesome. I....admire your ignorance of the question in that post. Well played.

My thoughts are good. I can't seen an issue.

Thanks! I do these recaps for every playtest y'all do.

Agreed.

In the past, Uber has made some efforts to some big balance changes that the community just tore apart and the entire balance changes were dropped because they didn't work.

We'd love to help y'all out with the balance.

Personal streaming preference: features we don't have, bugs and all ;^) While it's fun to watch you guys just playing the released (more or less) version, I'll probably pass if I know thats it.

I have to admire you mered. Rude and offensive didn't work the first few months you tried it, but you're damned sure it'll work if you just give it a little longer.

What happened to your posts? Now it's all either derail or a bit double edged sword. :/

dox psychosis. Don't worry it can be healed by nerfing dox.

MY GOD THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

I've been angry. It rubs off. I have posted the solution to my anger for all the world to see

Looks like a Day of Reflection is in order.