Curent Balance is too game-ender-y; UBER, how do you propose to support the famed week-long PA match

I want to know what are uber's plans (if not an implementations of EVERYONE'S ideas concerning dox, orbital in general, metal planets and Gaz Giants) so as to render week-long matches (for those who have no clue about them yet, they would obviously come with the support of rolling members in a match. -the possibility to relay one member of the team as the match is under way.) possible.


they are not possible under the current balance unless everyone is trying really hard to su.... *HERM!* ..to loose.

what do we do?

1. Spam boom bots on area patrol
2. Let the sim speed drop as low as it can go
3. ???
4. Week long matches!

You're a beautiful and unique individual and we love you.

On a related topic: Have we heard anything about the possibility of joining an already running game?

Please give us asteroid belts!

Drop pods would also be a great way to cut back on match time. Fill drop pods up with Vanguards and drop them in the middle of the enemy base.

psh why not just have orbital bot factories that drop bomb bots via drop pods

Wouldn't that just give people one more thing to complain about when it comes to balance? Orbital vanguard drops turn the orbital game into just a bunch of quick commander snipes.

Any change will give people something to complain about.

Not changing will give people something to complain about.

People will always complain about anything. It's how the web and this industry works. "But people will complain" is simply not a valid argument.

If drop pods are balanced correctly, they'll be able to be shot down by Avengers/Anchors/Umbrellas and Hummingbirds/Flak/Missile defense. And there could even be a slight cooldown time of like a second or something when the pods land and open up, allowing ground forces to shoot at them as well.

So have a good defensive network, and you can defend against them.

Have you looked at the mod thread for orbital teleporters? It looks a lot like what you are asking for.

I have, and it's not what I'm asking for in the slightest.

Big difference between a teleporter and a one way single use drop pod.

It is very hard to get a unit back into an orbital teleporter once it reaches the ground (You need a big ladder), so I would consider it close enough. I'm just trying to offer solutions that don't require lots of dev time and accomplish the same thing. I'd like to get this issue resolved so that we can find out what people will complain about next.

Unit request!

Except the teleporter is multi-use and drop pods are single use. Quite different. VERY different when it comes to balance. And, drop pods will be very useful for cheaply colonizing planets, while that teleporter wouldn't. Again, the two are VERY different.

Also, drop pods aren't very different at all from the Astraeus. Simply make them faster and make them get destroyed after unloading the unit.

So in terms of dev time, it's not a giant task. I'd even venture to guess that an orbital teleporter would be more work.

An orbital teleporter obviously would be a tool to invade heavily defended planets, while single drop pods are like the super cheap way to expand to other planets early on. The ultimate multi planet expansion tool....
*drools*

haha.


ok I wasn't specific enough. How do you get a game a week in-game time in length?

Wow I legitimately can't believe this derailment. thanks guys. made it to general : page two and not the slightest shadow of an answer in this thread.

We can give you opinions if you like?

We aren't capable of proper answers however.

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pods ecentualy too spamable making austreus redundant

orbital platform focusing too much on orbital basebuilding

asteroidbelts ... what is the point and how exactly shall it look different to what we already have?

To have a week long game you would need a game mode mod that makes tech go to level 5+. You also need the massive server advances to be made. You would need 100 players and tons of planets. Metal planets with max ranges. Multiple suns? To have huge development of dynamic alliances. You also would need multiple community sized groups able to man a squad of 50 over a week to cover all there slots. PASTATS is amazing for telling teams how there doing and where all the fronts are across the galaxy. Although if you wanted to use PAstats to help team track movement then you need to help out Colin with getting the server able track 100+ thousand units across 20+ planets and probably economies in the 1 million metal ranges. If you can do all that then week long games could in my mind be an awesome thing. But as it stands the longest game you can play with 10 players on multiple planets is probably 2 hours ingame time before your sim will slow to 1 sec in game is 30+secs irl. Single planet games might not slow as bad but everyone will kill one another before 2 hours ingame anyway.

First of all, they never said something about week-long matches. HOURS long, not weeks. You are about 3 orders of magnitude to high in your expectations.

The other thing is that our current computers could barely handle such a large game. Even the servers. Where are still at the low end of the x64 technology. The limit of the technology is around 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 Byte or 17,179,869,184 Gibi-Byte RAM. What are we runnign aroudn now? 128 GiB? 256 GiB?
The Engine needs progressive more memory as the game unfolds, since it contains all the chronocam data in memory.

The most important thing however is the pace of the game. The games pace is intentionally fast. It needs to be a big match (around 10 players) if it ever breaches the 1 hour mark.