It was a mistake to call this a release

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by thexder1, September 13, 2014.

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  1. bluestrike01

    bluestrike01 Active Member

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    Something tells me you would have liked the beta version where defences were a bit too strong.
    But people would stay in there to powerfull bases.
    Personally I would like defences to be a bit stronger again (and also cost a bit more then.)
  2. eratosthenes

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    I'm on the fence about the rational of calling this version the release, just to be clear. I also think calling it release has absolutely no affect on me since the development will pretty much just continue and I like the game, always have since I got it in alpha.

    That being said, it's pretty arrogant to tell people they can't voice their opinions just because you don't agree. Since the decision to call this the release is, in no small part, a subjective one, there are valid points to be made everywhere, and suppressing others' opinions is really out of line. Additionally, calling people arrogant and then listing all the reasons why your/someone else's opinion is superior is in really bad taste and reeks more of arrogance than any mere opinion the people here are voicing.

    Two cents have been dropped.
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  3. devoh

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    You just don't see the value in saying the same thing a million times. Once we hit a million and one times Uber is so going to say "Wow these guys are brilliant! Let's totally unrelease this baby.. we can even have an unrelease party." ;) Then every six months or so we will hold a vote if we will give Uber permission to release our game. Should we go with simple majority 51% of the votes, or a 2/3's majority? o_O No let's make it a required 100%, as we don't want any disagreements.

    They need a smily for smashing your head against a wall...:rolleyes:
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  4. devoh

    devoh Well-Known Member

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    They really should have called this the "SuperDuperUber version or SDU-V"
  5. devoh

    devoh Well-Known Member

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    Can some point out exactly what has changed from this game a week before the release and a week after?

    It was already available on steam.
    I'm pretty sure you could pick it up in stores with a box and disk in it. So it was just as easy to get now as it was a few weeks ago.. So what am I missing? I have yet to see a new version numbering system.

    What do people think adding the term "release" has changed? I've been playing the game for like a year.. and just having fun.

    Perhaps a simple solution to all the "OMG Uber should not have released this game" threads is this..

    Stop playing the game. In a year we will ask Uber to have a "born-again release". Then those people should try
    it again. Rinse, lather, repeat as necessary. This way everyone is happy. Those of us that just like playing can play. Those that think Uber should have waited can wait. Win/Win
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  6. Shwyx

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    Except that, you know, people have paid for this game and have the reasonable expectation of getting a working product (backers and early access players are exempt).

    Saying "wait a year for the game to improve" is adding insult to injury.
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  7. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    Are you implying the game doesn't work?
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  8. Shwyx

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    As it so happens, it actually doesn't right now for me because of the recent launcher bug ... but that's just a technicality.

    All optimism aside - at some point even the most die-hard apologists on this forum have to admit that launching was a bad idea. You can't go on forever with "Soon" or "Uber is working on it" or "a mod will fix that".
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    Ok you think it was a mistake. Now what do you suggest ? :)
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  10. devoh

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    Why do you say we can't go on forever with "Soon" or "Uber is working on it"? The threads on "Uber shouldn't have released" go on forever. The fact of the matter is "Uber shouldn't have released is an opinion" regardless of how many you think share that opinion. An example of a fact is "Uber is working on it" as they are.
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  11. devoh

    devoh Well-Known Member

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    I hope you are not holding your breath waiting on an answer to that. :p
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    devoh Well-Known Member

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    On a topic that is more useful.. Shwyx, did you post to get some help with the launcher bug you are having?
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  13. zgrssd

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    It took me quite long to learn basic pride and certainty in my own skills and opinions. It could be that I am now overdoing it and flipping over into arogance, but I doubt it.
    And what about your arrogance to claim "the game is not ready" in the first place?

    I have worked the last 10 years, in comptuer reperair, adminsitration and programming. Also in my country programmers are well schooled in the arts of economics. I told you who I am to say "this game is ready for launch".
    Needs some work like all released titles, but it sure as heck is ready.

    Now who are you to declare it not ready for launch? What is your experience in the field? Is there anything but "I say it does not work for me"? Because that is not the basis for such a arrogant declaration.
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  14. gatokatcha

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    Let me try.

    We all known that release is an important turning point. The game's name changes it goes from early acces to 1.0. It goes to the outer world at large.Each potential buyer lost at that point won't be snowballing cash, each supporter lost will make the thing more tiny.
    There has been a lot of noise around that release being incomplete. I think adressing that issue is useful. The best way would be to give an official reasoning of what it had to be like this. That'd stop the floating theories to emerge for the lifetime of the game. I understood that Brad put it up as we are proud of it as it is. And believe me or not I'd be damm proud too.
    The future of this community isn't unfolding in this forum but on the thousands others out there. As soon as the game is released, "I don't care if you're happy as long as I am" stop to be an answer.They are to be made happy. A mere explanation can go a long way. But "we are happy as it is" built up resentment. Now you're right it happened and leaving something in the shadow might have been the best option for the good of the game. Nevertheless it has a cost in terms of image and pointing it out decrease it. hiding it increase it.
    At some point the whole story will be history. The sooner all the light is done the better.
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  15. burlayz

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    Advertised features not in the game seems a pretty valid reason.
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    Nice dodge.
    So I just have to ask again:
    "Now who are you to declare it not ready for launch? What is your experience in the field? Is there anything but "I say it does not work for me"? Because that is not the basis for such a arrogant declaration."
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  17. burlayz

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    Who are you to declare it is ready for launch? "Sorry, bub, works for me." is not the basis for such a arrogant declaration.
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  18. Tiller

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    SMNC electric boogaloo. Both games had potential but shoved into the limelight too early. It's all well and good that they've promised to continue building and growing the game but once again they made the mistake of souring opinions of would be buyers with issues in it's launched state. They said the same thing about MNC, then SMNC, and now PA. At least this time there are mods.
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  20. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    I don't know if it's fair to say that until a year from now or so. :p
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